From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 28 08:20:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D10316A509 for ; Fri, 28 May 2004 08:20:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.village.org [168.103.84.182]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1581543D31 for ; Fri, 28 May 2004 08:20:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i4SFGON1045003; Fri, 28 May 2004 09:16:24 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 09:16:45 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20040528.091645.126914826.imp@bsdimp.com> To: kensmith@cse.Buffalo.EDU From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <20040528134635.GD16345@electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU> References: <200405280940.22164.eqe@cox.net> <20040528134635.GD16345@electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU> X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org cc: eqe@cox.net Subject: Re: Is 4.10 the last upgrade for 4.x? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 15:20:33 -0000 The following is speculation, based on historical trends in FreeBSD. It assumes that we continue to do that, and that the re manpower remains about the same as it is today (less manpower == less frequent releases). In message: <20040528134635.GD16345@electra.cse.Buffalo.EDU> Ken Smith writes: : The next thing released will be 5.3. If we stick to this plan 4.11 : would be released several months later - I would guess very late this : year or early next year. At this point it is best to view -stable as a 'release every 6-9 months' stage in its life cycle (4.9 was released 7 months ago). These releases will continue as long as it makes sense to do them. 4.11 almost certainly makes sense, but a 4.12 may or may not make sense. Time will tell if it does (we won't know until about this time next year) or not. 4.11 on this time scale would be Jan 2005 and 4.12 would be Sept 2005. I personally suspect that there won't be a 4.12, since 5.6 will likely be released around the same time frame (if we do 5.3 in July, then 5.4 would be Nov 2004, 5.5 would be Mar 2005, 5.6 would be July 2005 and 5.7 would be Nov 2005). There were rumblings of trying to get 6.0 out late next year too, which would certainly be the last nail in the 4.x branch. Anyway, if the folks that are actively on re@ say otherwise, believe them, not me. Warner