From owner-freebsd-current Mon Apr 24 12:19:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from relay01.chello.nl (smtp.chello.nl [212.83.68.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA1B437B8E8 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 12:19:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@chello.nl) Received: from chello.nl ([213.46.78.184]) by relay01.chello.nl (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 99c8f334c649856e3f2cdadc4054e412) with ESMTP id <20000424191937.GNQS5152.relay01@chello.nl>; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 21:19:37 +0200 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by chello.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA37394; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 21:19:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 21:19:26 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Richard Wackerbarth Cc: wc.bulte@chello.nl, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: asm_pci.h,v Holy cow! Message-ID: <20000424211926.B37284@yedi.wbnet> Reply-To: wc.bulte@chello.nl References: <39041698.15FB7483@elischer.org> <00042413373504.09404@nomad.dataplex.net> <20000424210010.A37127@yedi.wbnet> <00042414072202.09427@nomad.dataplex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <00042414072202.09427@nomad.dataplex.net>; from rkw@dataplex.net on Mon, Apr 24, 2000 at 02:07:22PM -0500 X-OS: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Apr 24, 2000 at 02:07:22PM -0500, Richard Wackerbarth wrote: > On Mon, 24 Apr 2000, you wrote: > > > > Seriously, perhaps we should consider putting optional pieces of the > > > kernel > > > > Firmware for a SCSI adapter is not optional. At least not on some of the > > Alpha machines that download out-of-date firmware from their SRMs so depend > > on the driver to load them with something up-to-date. > > Sure it is. I certainly have a fine system without any SCSI adapter. > > The whole move toward loadable modules is to make the kernel into a > "cafeteria" rather than a "blue plate". > > That firmware is a required part of a particular driver is not in dispute. People were writing "port", not "module". For the isp firmware it is in some cases a mandatory part, in some cases a optional part of the driver. Matt can tell you more ;-) -- Wilko Bulte Powered by FreeBSD http://www.freebsd.org http://www.tcja.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message