From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jun 3 15:20:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.its.rpi.edu (mail1.its.rpi.edu [128.113.100.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83B4014BD6 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 15:20:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.acs.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by mail1.its.rpi.edu (8.8.8/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA12234; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 18:20:33 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: drosih@mail.rpi.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <56714.928444103@zippy.cdrom.com> References: Your message of "Thu, 03 Jun 1999 14:03:13 PDT." <199906032103.OAA00126@apollo.backplane.com> Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 18:21:11 -0400 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Matthew Dillon From: Garance A Drosihn Subject: Re: Matt's Commit status (was Re: 3.2-stable, panic #12) Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 2:08 PM -0700 6/3/99, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > Excellent. Let's assume then that all the core folk who are there, > plus any committers who have an interest in the issue (since core > has to listen to its developers' opinions too or we can no longer > honestly claim to represent their interests), will be getting > together... I'm not on the core, I'm not a committer, and I won't be at Usenix. Still, I'd like to mention that as a freebsd *user*, I have appreciated the recent NFS-related work that Matt has done. While others seemed too busy with "new" technology to bother with ugly-old-NFS problems, Matt dived in and pursued them with enough enthusiasm to make a real difference. Even though we obviously still have a few more NFS bugs bothering us, just the fact that someone is obviously pursuing them makes those of us who use FreeBSD for NFS-serving feel much better. Someone who has this much spare energy for tracking down ancient problems in technologically-uninteresting code should be getting some reward for it. In a project like this, it seems to me that the standard reward is a certain degree of respect, and I think Matt's recent work has earned him a bit more respect than he seems to be getting. Given that the FreeBSD project sees one of it's strengths as being a server OS, it baffles me that someone working hard to improve the stability of that OS is being treated as an 'outsider' by the core of 'insiders'. It's not that I think the current insiders are doing bad work, it's just that we can always use someone willing to track down obscure bugs in boring and ancient code. That's just my view as one FreeBSD user. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.acs.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or drosih@rpi.edu Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message