From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 26 00:58:56 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CCF316A417 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 00:58:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erik@cepheid.org) Received: from mail.cepheid.org (aleph.cepheid.org [72.232.60.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18DBF13C474 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 00:58:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erik@cepheid.org) Received: by mail.cepheid.org (Postfix, from userid 1006) id 47F499B4057; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 18:58:55 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 18:58:55 -0600 From: Erik Osterholm To: "eBoundHost: Artur" Message-ID: <20071126005855.GA74363@aleph.cepheid.org> Mail-Followup-To: Erik Osterholm , "eBoundHost: Artur" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <000401c82fb0$191b53b0$f300a8c0@outkast> <000301c82fbe$6ff618b0$6701a8c0@mobility> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000301c82fbe$6ff618b0$6701a8c0@mobility> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: who wrote this X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 00:58:56 -0000 On Sun, Nov 25, 2007 at 05:53:54PM -0600, eBoundHost: Artur wrote: > I would appreciate if someone would help me find the person who can > help to > modify the text on this page. > http://www.freebsd.org/internal/fortunes.html > I think it can be worded differently and get the point accross > without > giving any extra attention to this monster. > > Best Regards, > > Artur Do I understand correctly that you are not concerned so much with the inclusion of quotes by Adolf Hitler, but you don't like the way the web page is presented? If that's the case, my argument for maintaining the current state of the webpage is that it's going to become a repeated issue. Without the notice that Hitler quotes are not automatically considered offensive, a lot of people will probably see a non-offensive Hitler quote and argue that it should be moved to the offensive file simply due to the attribution. Put another way, the quote "What luck for the rulers that men do not think." is not considered offensive. Merely adding the attribution, then, should not cause it to be moved to the "offensive" file. That said, people have argued in the past that it should be, simply because Hitler is in the text. Putting the notice on the webpage at http://www.freebsd.org/internal/fortunes.html is a public expression that the speaker of the quote is not to be the basis for categorizing the quote as offensive. Erik