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Date:      Mon, 24 Feb 1997 22:09:17 +0100
From:      j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch)
To:        freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit:  src/sys/scsi cd.c
Message-ID:  <Mutt.19970224220917.j@uriah.heep.sax.de>
In-Reply-To: <199612280248.NAA00474@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au>; from Michael Smith on Dec 28, 1996 13:18:43 %2B1030
References:  <199612271602.RAA13776@uriah.heep.sax.de> <199612280248.NAA00474@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au>

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As Michael Smith wrote:

> > > The "unit is not spinning" status should probably be an error/status
> > > return to the generic SCSI layer in the "ideal world".
> > 
> > Why?  
> 
> I was visualising it as a soft error : 
> 
> SCSI:             driver:
>  Do <this>        can't, it's not spinning

Hmm, the problem with this is there's not really a ``disk is not
spinning'' error.  ``Logical unit not ready, cause not reportable.''
This could mean anything and all.

>  oops, start it   ok, started
>  Do <this>        ok
> 
> This obviates the need to explicitly perform the start command; any
> command (that requires the disk to be spinning) to a disk that is not
> spinning will cause the error handler to start it and retry the
> command(s) - this then covers the case where a disk is powered down
> for whatever reason while it's open.

I don't say this idea is unreasonable. :)

> A lot of SCSI disks don't seem to accept STOP UNIT.  (I tried that
> here out of interest; none of the disks I could safely unmount
> accepted it; admittedly that's mostly CDC and Seagate disks.)

Seagates usually do, well, unless they aren't Seagates but CDCs. ;-)
To be fair, these CDCs don't even claim SCSI-2 compliance either,
AFAIK.  The START STOP UNIT command is optional, but these CDCs do
accept it -- it's only that they don't allow to turnoff the drive.

So you're simply at a loss with them.

-- 
cheers, J"org

joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE
Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-)



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