From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 21:40:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ECC316A4CE for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 21:40:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from av1-1-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (av1-1-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net [81.228.10.116]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5C6243D55 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 21:40:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from daniel_k_eriksson@telia.com) Received: by av1-1-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id EACAF37F07; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 22:40:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp2-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (smtp2-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net [81.228.10.182]) by av1-1-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCA6C37EBF; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 22:40:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from sentinel (h130n1fls11o822.telia.com [213.64.66.130]) by smtp2-2-sn4.m-sp.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCD5A37E5A; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 22:40:48 +0100 (CET) From: "Daniel Eriksson" To: "'Frode Nordahl'" , Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 22:40:41 +0100 Organization: Home Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <3BE1BF5E-4249-11D9-9F7A-000A95A9A574@nordahl.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcTWViKlTvRrCGu7T4O7kOYpCkRJdAABJ/Og Subject: RE: Got rid of my SiI3112A X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 21:40:50 -0000 Frode Nordahl wrote: > But as things are today, I think it would be best to remove > support for > SiI3112A. Especially since the general attitude towards it is > "it's too > broke, we don't want to waste any more time on it". > > Attempting to use it in a 5.3-RELEASE or 6-CURRENT system will most > likelly make your system crash and burn, and make your data > unrecoverable beyond repair. I will have to agree with Frode on this one. I recently put -CURRENT on a machine with an ASUS mobo that had a SiL 3112 controller. Hooking up two 250GB WD discs to it quickly resulted in timeouts, followed by some strange messages from geom_stripe (used it to stripe the two discs), followed by filesystem corruption and panics. I tried all the "normal" things, such as running with/without ACPI & APIC, moving other PCI cards around to ensure it wasn't a ithread sharing problem, removing PREEMPTION from the kernel, ... To me it looks like SiL 3112 support is bad enough that it could hurt FreeBSD's reputation. At the very least there should be some warnings in places you cannot miss that it might fry your data. (I was expecting problems, so I really didn't loose anything important.) /Daniel Eriksson