From owner-freebsd-net Mon Jan 1 22:25:54 2001 From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 1 22:25:53 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from homer.softweyr.com (bsdconspiracy.net [208.187.122.220]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7F4237B402 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 22:25:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=softweyr.com ident=Fools trust ident!) by homer.softweyr.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14DKyb-0000PY-00; Mon, 01 Jan 2001 23:31:17 -0700 Sender: wes@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <3A5175B5.1F21090B@softweyr.com> Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2001 23:31:17 -0700 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "C. Stephen Gunn" , Julian Elischer , "freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Problems with VLAN and natd. References: <200101020501.AAA58976@tsunami.waterspout.com> <3A517429.91B2F251@softweyr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wes Peters wrote: > > "C. Stephen Gunn" wrote: > > > > Netgraph is an excellent technology. While your comment makes > > sense, there are several issues that will need to be addressed. > > For instance, the current ARP implementation in FreeBSD is > > entangled with the generic ethernet code. > > Under netgraph, it would be just another protocol in a netgraph node, > and could be added to (and removed from) the interface as needed. That > would be interesting from the standpoint of a secure system over which > you wanted to control the ARP entries. Being able to simply turn off > dynamic ARP has been discussed often, but never really acted upon. Sorry to reply to my own message, but another thought hit me. Now that the swelling has gone down, I thought I should share it: This might even give us a start at a sticky problem that has been bugging VLAN switch makers from the start, namely, per-VLAN ARP tables. That is something really needed to do VLANs correctly. -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC wes@softweyr.com http://softweyr.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message