From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 13 09:20:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 968B616A402 for ; Sat, 13 May 2006 09:20:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.web-strider.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16B9843D45 for ; Sat, 13 May 2006 09:20:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id k4D9Kfx85346; Sat, 13 May 2006 02:20:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "David Stanford" , Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 02:20:41 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 Importance: Normal Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: New FreeBSD logo X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 09:20:45 -0000 >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of David Stanford >Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 5:32 AM >To: reflex@rotten.com >Cc: questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: New FreeBSD logo > > >Why, oh why, would you post this? > >So help me to understand...The FreeBSD Project takes great effort in >not only producing a truly _great_ operating system, trademarked as >being fast, robust, stable and secure, provides it to the world for >_free_, but also takes on the additional chore of attempting to >promote its growth in the corporate market by introducing a new >logo...and then some, all for the community. And your repayment is to >aid in these, now, endless rants of verbal bashing of the Project's >logo, which had an obvious goal of gaining wider popularity among >busnesses for the purposes of making it bigger and better for, yes, >_you_ and every other one of its users. Your missing something - "they" didn't ask all us users if we wanted a new logo or not. >Maybe I'm going out on a limb >here, and maybe I'm solo dangling out there on it, but I feel a need >to say something in defense. They spent they wasted > much valued donation money for >the logo and in legal fees, I'm sure, to obtain it, so I would assume >(and hope) it's here to stay. Unlikely. Most corporate logos change every 10-20 years or so. Some also have a raft of logos. For example Chrysler used to use the medallion for it's logo. Then they switched to the pentagram. Now they are back to the medallion and it's been redone. AT&T has also changed logos, they used to use the bell then the Death Star, now they are using a modifed Death Star. Fads and fashions in logos come and go. The current FreBSD sex toy logo is very much a current fashion, as abstract logos like that are all the rage now. But it's just going to get dated all the faster for that. >Furthermore, by continuing to post >threads like this you (and others) are hardly contributing to the >Project (or this list) and, in fact, are doing the exact opposite - >you are attempting to destroy the new logo's image by imaturely >calling it a "sex toy" and in turn are slowly taking away from those >precious dollars put into aquiring it. Why throw more good money after bad? >Maybe it's not the greatest >logo, but, regardless, the logo doesn't affect the code. Try to keep >that in mind. FreeBSD is a gift. And anyone who doesn't see that >should take another look at Microsoft's pricing options for a simple >Home edition of XP (now $99, five years after its initial release). >Please do the community a favor: Just say thanks and move along. > The community doesen't want the new logo and the majority of the community prefers Beastie over the sex-toy. >**Of course, this was not aimed at the general community, but more >specifically at the folks wasting everyone's inbox space the past few >days with this nonsense.** > like yourself? Ted