From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 1 03:25:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54D7516A4CE for ; Sun, 1 Aug 2004 03:25:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8C3443D41 for ; Sun, 1 Aug 2004 03:25:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0); Sat, 31 Jul 2004 22:29:18 -0500 Message-ID: <410C62B4.80404@daleco.biz> Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 22:25:40 -0500 From: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040712 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Seaman References: <20040731222959.V41532@chylonia.3miasto.net> <20040731204517.GC75175@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20040731204517.GC75175@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Aug 2004 03:29:18.0698 (UTC) FILETIME=[BA7FFCA0:01C47777] cc: strick@covad.net cc: Wojciech Puchar cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: raw devices X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2004 03:25:46 -0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: >On Sat, Jul 31, 2004 at 10:30:21PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > >>where are raw devices in FreeBSD? do they exist at all? >> >> > >Actually, all devices under FreeBSD are raw or character devices. >Block devices on the other hand disappeared a long time ago. It's all >to do with having an advance VM system, apparently: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/arch-handbook/driverbasics-block.html > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > Hmm, now I'm a tad curious --- or confused. ceri@ just committed a revised synopsis I hacked at for the handbook's Vinum chapter which states, among other things: "In addition to supporting various cards and controllers for hardware RAID systems, the base FreeBSD system includes the Vinum Volume Manager, a block device driver that implements virtual disk drives." So is there conflicting data here? Might be good to figure out the truth before the next edition handbook goes to the printer (which may be soon...) However, I'd be first to admit a dire lack of knowledge here... help? Kevin Kinsey DaleCo, S.P.