From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sun Oct 25 20:22:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA23982 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 20:22:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shell6.ba.best.com (shell6.ba.best.com [206.184.139.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA23977 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 20:22:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkb@shell6.ba.best.com) Received: (from jkb@localhost) by shell6.ba.best.com (8.9.0/8.9.0/best.sh) id UAA16897; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 20:22:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19981025202200.B14664@best.com> Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 20:22:00 -0800 From: "Jan B. Koum " To: "Jason C. Wells" , FreeBSD-advocacy Subject: Re: Whistle Claims and Copyrights References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: ; from Jason C. Wells on Sun, Oct 25, 1998 at 07:09:18PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Oct 25, 1998 at 07:09:18PM -0800, "Jason C. Wells" wrote: > http://www.whistle.com/products/prod-basicfaq.html#bsd > > They use BSD instead of free software? Gag!! I guess they are afraid to > "come out of the closet." Read below. > > To be fair, they do meet the requirements of the Board of Regents > copyright terms. > > Why doesn't FreeBSD add FreeBSD, Inc to the copyright? Certainly /usr/src > contains copyrightable contributions by FreeBSD. A statement in the > copyright requiring... > > 3. All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this software > must display the following acknowledgement: > > This product includes software developed by the University of > California, Berkeley and its contributors and FreeBSD Inc. and it's > contributors. > > ...would seem wholly appropriate. The BSD license does not seem to > preclude such a statement. > > Do we not do this to prevent scaring away customers like Whistle who are > unwilling to advertise that they use free software? > > Catchya Later, | UW Mechanical Engineering > Jason Wells | http://weber.u.washington.edu/~jcwells/ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message Ahh.. C'mon. Whistle has done SO MUCH for FreeBSD community it is simply not fair to blame them of something as small as this. If Whistle was "unwilling to advertise that they use free software", I am sure they wouldn't come to ORA's Open Source day and tell people that they do use FreeBSD. I personally heard Terry say this. Plus, I am sure this was done by Marketing, who had no idea that "Linux Unix" is no such thing and that having OS "in very little memory" is well.. uhm.. not very technical saying. If anything, I want to say to Whistle folks, it is Thanks, with capitol "T". Thanks for picking FreeBSD, Thanks for sending code you wrote and bugs and fixes you found back to FreeBSD. Thanks for creating another company at which we can point and say: "Look, they use FreeBSD". Thanks to Julian, Archie, Terry, David W., and many many others. -- Yan I don't have the password .... + Jan Koum But the path is chainlinked .. | Spelled Jan, pronounced Yan. There. So if you've got the time .... | Web: http://www.best.com/~jkb Set the tone to sync ......... + OS: http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message