From owner-freebsd-advocacy Fri Jul 31 07:54:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA05304 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 07:54:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA05297 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 07:54:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwilde1@ibm.net) Received: from ibm.net (slip-32-100-79-42.ca.us.ibm.net [32.100.79.42]) by out1.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA69292; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 14:53:58 GMT Message-ID: <35C1DA89.7E2199DA@ibm.net> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 07:54:01 -0700 From: Don Wilde X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Eric S. Raymond" CC: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: branding References: <35BFEBEF.82BA6DC6@ibm.net> <35BF334C.5D5F40BD@ibm.net> <19980729104951.A14984@snark.thyrsus.com> <35BFEBEF.82BA6DC6@ibm.net> <19980730000430.E15941@snark.thyrsus.com> <19980730065206.11785.qmail@hyperreal.org> <19980730044544.A16278@snark.thyrsus.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Re: Your answer post to Brian - PAX, Eric. We do not wish to see you stop what you're doing, because it is heading in the right direction. Noone here denies the incredible paradigm shift that you are indeed a prime mover in. We just want you to remember your roots, which include the fact that you're standing on the backs (metaphorically) of all those who gave freely before you. You do deserve a lot of credit for your actions, and I give it freely because you've earned it with sweat and brains. All we are saying is that for the price of a little HTML -- which we will gladly submit -- you can present a more balanced view of the Open Source world. Most money-suckers will actually use FreeBSD because of the poison-pill (GPL) thoughtfully included with every copy of Linux. Great. Let them. We believe commercial users DO return source back to the tree, and we are the stronger for it. Brian's great comment about the 1000 $4M companies that benefit from freeware is so appropriate. Very few might be Yahoo stock-market darlings, but I personally know that FreeBSD and Apache are prime reasons my employer is gaining worldwide business, and WOW! our networks have never run so smoothly!!! What we ask will cost you nothing and will benefit us greatly. In fact, you'll stop getting nagged. (!) All we ask is that you use your center-stage presence give us a leg up as a part of your project, because you know in your heart that true freeware IS the One True Way. I'm sure you'd put your sandals back on if you could! -- oooOOO O O O o * * * * * * o ___ _________ _________ _________ ___==__ V_=_=_DW ===--- Don Wilde [dwilde1 @ ibm.net] [ = = ] /oo0000oo-oo--oo-ooo---ooo-ooo---ooo-ooo---ooo-oo---oo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message