From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Aug 4 8:26: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from att.com (kcgw1.att.com [192.128.133.151]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 145A014E3B for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 08:26:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shalunov@att.com) Received: from kcig1.att.att.com by kcgw1.att.com (AT&T/IPNS/UPAS-1.0) for picnic.mat.net!chuckr freebsd.org!freebsd-ports sender att.com!shalunov (att.com!shalunov); Wed Aug 4 10:25 CDT 1999 Received: from tuzik.lz.att.com (tuzik.lz.att.com [135.25.200.84]) by kcig1.att.att.com (AT&T/IPNS/GW-1.0) with ESMTP id KAA17774; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 10:25:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from shalunov@localhost) by tuzik.lz.att.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id LAA18553; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 11:27:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from shalunov@att.com) Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 11:27:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199908041527.LAA18553@tuzik.lz.att.com> From: stanislav shalunov To: chuckr@picnic.mat.net Cc: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: (message from Chuck Robey on Wed, 4 Aug 1999 10:52:37 -0400 (EDT)) Subject: Re: sgmlfmt: producing text files References: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > From: Chuck Robey > This post, and one other, seemed to be discussing changing > formatting from troff to TeX, and included man pages, which have to > be part of the main system, so I don't think I was off target. Chuck, I did not even mention manual pages. I was talking about formatting user-written SGML documents, and formatting them into formats other than manual pages (namely, text-only). Sgmlformat is in ports collection, and I was discussing its use as a port, not as part of base system (where did you get that?). I didn't even know you have any manual pages in SGML, to be honest (I know the handbook is in SGML, but it's not being converted to manual pages, right?). Nobody wants the man pages to go out in anything other than the traditional format. I did say that I value TeX formatting more than groff formatting. For *my* documents, not for manual pages. And isn't it OK for me to choose what puts spacing and breaks lines in my documents? If my wording was confusing and lead you to believe I am talking about manual pages formatting, then once again, I am (was) not (but please show me what made you believe so). Your message didn't give me (or anyone else) any useful information (like overcoming the problems with nroff that I listed), and was pertinent to a subject I didn't mention or intend to discuss. And this is not expression of anger, this is just a plain fact. I do not think you wanted your message to be helpful. I didn't propose ``changing'' from troff to TeX, or anything like that. I was asking about including LaTeX as one of the output formats (Jade seems to support LaTeX, so sgmlformat potentially could do this, too). If you like troff typesetting better, that's a matter of taste. I would like the ability to use TeX's formatting capabilities for producing PostScript, because the hyphenation algorithms and paragraph formatting works better, in my opinion, in TeX than in groff. It doesn't mean that everyone else has to use TeX, or that it should be used instead of troff, or, especially, nroff. I talked about adding new capabilities to sgmlformat, which was useful for me, and might be useful for others. (Preparation of text versions of FAQs for Usenet posting, etc.) That's it. --Stanislav To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ports" in the body of the message