Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 13:55:14 -0800 From: Matt Olander <matt@ixsystems.com> To: Mark Blackman <mark@exonetric.com> Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Mark Felder <feld@feld.me> Subject: Re: FreeBSD has serious problems with focus, longevity, and lifecycle Message-ID: <CAK6u07W9fAFgoDFHSKRNDx7sMEHDTxUDHCs=6PjryM-O5HJPig@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <81A5F99A-CA8B-4BA9-936C-51F5421460AC@exonetric.com> References: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1112211415580.19710@kozubik.com> <op.v78i3yxi34t2sn@tech304> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1201171009330.19710@kozubik.com> <9E283165-BD56-4DBF-9799-757C475815FB@bsdimp.com> <81A5F99A-CA8B-4BA9-936C-51F5421460AC@exonetric.com>
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On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 1:27 PM, Mark Blackman <mark@exonetric.com> wrote: > On 17 Jan 2012, at 21:09, Warner Losh wrote: > >> >> On Jan 17, 2012, at 11:12 AM, John Kozubik wrote: >>> Again, I'm not suggesting more snapshots - I am suggesting more real, b= ona fide releases. =A0This will help people. >> >> I tend to agree with you. =A0Our release engineering process isn't servi= ng the needs of users as much as it once did. =A0When Walnut Creek was runn= ing release engineering, we had releases often because they wanted to make = money from their subscriptions. =A0This produced reasonably spaced minor re= leases and except for 4-5, decently spaced major releases. =A0Even after th= e torch passed from walnut creek to others, there was still either residual= pressures to make the releases happen, or inherited mindset that keep on t= he same pace. >> >> Today we have lost our way. =A0We have no major vendor pushing the proce= ss along to make it happen faster. > > What exactly did the major vendor to push things along? Keep nagging? > > I'd have thought PC-BSD and iXsystems are the natural people to to take o= ver that role in any > case. =A0 The FreeBSD foundation seems =A0less interested in the "for end= -users" angle as well. We'd be happy to sponsor a full-time employee at the Mall to handle rolling -STABLE into release a few more times per year. We might need a bit of help maintaining a long term release but we think it's a pretty good idea all the way around. Cheers, -matt
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