From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 28 18:47:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 975FB16A4CE for ; Sun, 28 Mar 2004 18:47:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from spam2.snu.ac.kr (spam2.snu.ac.kr [147.46.10.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0C80643D1D for ; Sun, 28 Mar 2004 18:47:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nospam@users.sourceforge.net) Received: (snipe 28862 invoked by alias); 29 Mar 2004 02:47:12 +0900(KST) Received: from nospam@users.sourceforge.net with SpamSniper2.76 (Processed in 0.047149 secs); Received: from unknown (HELO sis1.snu.ac.kr) (147.46.10.36) by 0 with SMTP; 29 Mar 2004 02:47:12 +0900(KST) X-RCPTTO: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Received: from users.sourceforge.net (cisr.snu.ac.kr [147.46.44.181]) by sis1.snu.ac.kr (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i2T2hLLJ209092 for ; Mon, 29 Mar 2004 11:43:22 +0900 Message-ID: <40678E30.2050405@users.sourceforge.net> Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 11:47:12 +0900 From: Rob User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040315 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20040328190936.97194.qmail@web60806.mail.yahoo.com> <200403282118.21371.jorn@wcborstel.nl> In-Reply-To: <200403282118.21371.jorn@wcborstel.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Hi I have a suggestion! To Imporve the perfect Freebsd! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 02:47:14 -0000 Jorn Argelo wrote: > The idea is alright, but Wine is far from perfection. In fact, many large > programs and 3D applications won't even run with wine. Why? First because > it's still in Alpa fase. Secocond, they depend on DirectX, and Wine only > emulates the API part of Windows. You could use WineX, but that is an > commercial program, so it cannot be shipped with FreeBSD. Third, Microsoft > constantly changes the API code, and sometimes they don't publish > documentation regarding the code. > > Besides, who needs Windows programs anyway? You have everything you want for > free, except for games. Let me add my frustration to the beautiful world of free Unix software. I'm working in physical chemistry environment at the university. My M$-Window$ collegues use Microcal Origin for the graphical data analysis. I must admit that this software is fantastic and I sometimes feel my style of data analysis is from the stone age. The problem is, there's no such thing available in the free software pool and Microcal refuses to port Origin to Unix environment. I've tried running it over Wine, but failed. Don't tell me there's Grace (or equivalents); that's no comparison at all! Now there is a commercial Unix alternative: Tecplot. But I'm unable to change the minds of all my collegues to switch to Tecplot only for my sake. Spending few thousand dollars for my Tecplot license, just because I stick to FreeBSD, is not an option. So not only the games-people, but also research environment can be in trouble when embedded in a Windows oriented environment. Regards, Rob.