From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Nov 11 17:26:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from florence.pavilion.net (florence.pavilion.net [194.242.128.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F9FA14C0E for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 17:26:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joe@florence.pavilion.net) Received: (from joe@localhost) by florence.pavilion.net (8.9.3/8.8.8) id BAA42993 for hackers@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 01:26:41 GMT (envelope-from joe) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 01:26:40 +0000 From: Josef Karthauser To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Severe problems with softupdates. Message-ID: <19991112012640.B42455@florence.pavilion.net> References: <19991111201148.A5748@florence.pavilion.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <19991111201148.A5748@florence.pavilion.net> X-NCC-RegID: uk.pavilion Organisation: Pavilion Internet plc, Lees House, 21-23 Dyke Road, Brighton, England Phone: +44-845-333-5000 Fax: +44-845-333-5001 Mobile: +44-403-596893 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've managed to recover from it with sprinklings of 'clri' and 'n' to fsck questions about reconnecting things that look bogus. It would be nice if fsck could be kinder though - and _why_ did it happen in the first place? Joe On Thu, Nov 11, 1999 at 08:11:49PM +0000, Josef Karthauser wrote: > Hi guys, > > I'm still trying to recover my laptop from a really severe filesystem > crash using softupdates. The machine hung due to a problem with > power managment so it needed a reboot. Now fsck won't clean up without > complaining bitterly about 'softupdate' problems, ultimately coming to > a halt with a 'can't find inode XXXX' message. I've confirmed with fsdb > that the inode in question does exist, so why is fsck complaining? Clearing > the inode in question allows fsck to proceed, and ultimately land on another > inode that exists, but it "can't find". > > I've searched the lists and this message appear to reference the same > problem: > > Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 01:58:31 -0400 (EDT) > From: "Joe \"Marcus\" Clarke" > To: Mark Powell > Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: How to fix cant load /kernel ???? Also soft updates fs corruption. > Message-ID: > In-Reply-To: > > I'm running -current; I don't know what Mark was running. > > Kirk mentioned that he was confident that softupdates was 'safe', but I've > had files (from a previous crash - recovered from) in lost+found that I > didn't touch, and no-way should have become disconnected from the file > system - they weren't even in buffercache at the time of the crash. > > I believe that Brian has also had the same problems (at FreeBSDCon). > > Can people put their hands up if they believe that they've experienced this > so that we can determine whether there's a deeper softupdates problem that > we're ignoring on faith? > > Also if anyone knows how to recover from it I'd be very grateful to know. > My /usr partition is uncleanable (although I can 'mount -f' it!! nasty!!). > > Joe. > -- > Josef Karthauser FreeBSD: How many times have you booted today? > Technical Manager Viagra for your server (http://www.uk.freebsd.org) > Pavilion Internet plc. [joe@pavilion.net, joe@uk.freebsd.org, joe@tao.org.uk] > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message -- Josef Karthauser FreeBSD: How many times have you booted today? Technical Manager Viagra for your server (http://www.uk.freebsd.org) Pavilion Internet plc. [joe@pavilion.net, joe@uk.freebsd.org, joe@tao.org.uk] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message