Date: Wed, 31 May 2017 18:44:32 -0400 From: Jim Trigg <jtrigg@huiekin.org> To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, Kevin Oberman <rkoberman@gmail.com>, Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com> Cc: Per olof Ljungmark <peo@intersonic.se>, FreeBSD Ports ML <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: The future of portmaster [and of ports-mgmt/synth] Message-ID: <1E02ABC1-C4B7-4947-B6FB-1C3573A76176@huiekin.org> In-Reply-To: <CAN6yY1stP9iFs5in-J4VGqLP88p_CEcykerDNePxm9490GiG4w@mail.gmail.com> References: <589B133C-0175-4DD2-8847-5A3E0E697B36@dsl-only.net> <20170530200629.GA10517@lonesome.com> <b0af0ae5-74fc-b932-5d4a-3697c5d3e666@intersonic.se> <20170530215306.GB11098@lonesome.com> <CAN6yY1stP9iFs5in-J4VGqLP88p_CEcykerDNePxm9490GiG4w@mail.gmail.com>
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If you can give me access to a development system, I'll help=2E (I only have a production server for the domains I host for a few not-for-= profit organizations, and my home server is currently out of service with a= bad power supply=2E) Jim Trigg On May 30, 2017 8:10:17 PM EDT, Kevin Oberman <rkoberman@gmail=2Ecom> wrot= e: >On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 2:53 PM, Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome=2Ecom> >wrote: > >> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 11:46:46PM +0200, Per olof Ljungmark wrote: >> > Hello, I have not followed this thread before but just wanted to >say >> > that I use portmaster extensively, it works for us and I would miss >> > it if it went=2E Are there actually plans to retire it? >> >> To reiterate the status: >> >> * some extensive changes to the ports framework are coming; >> * these will require large changes to all the port upgrade tools; >> * no one has stepped forwards to offer to do the work for anything >> other than poudriere AFAIK=2E >> >> If no one does the work, at the time the large changes come, the >> other tools will break=2E >> >> People have been wanting subpackages (aka flavors) for many years; >> IIUC these are parts of the changes that are coming=2E >> >> Someone needs to step forwards and say "yes, I will do the work=2E" >> >> mcl > > >Since portmaster is still popult and since the only solutions that >looks to >be available in the near term are pouderiere or raw make, neither >terribly >viable for many, I will look into updating portmaster to deal with >'flavors'=2E This looks fairly straight forward and I my have the sh >capability to manage it=2E (And then again, I am far from a great shell >person, so I may well be wrong=2E) I have looked at Doug's script and it >is >pretty readable, but writing may require help=2E > >Can someone point me where to look for documentation on flavors? I have >poked around the wiki, but to no avail=2E Unless there is documentation >on >what needs to be done, doing it will be hopeless and waiting for the >packaging system to updated means portmaster WILL be broken for some >period >of time=2E >-- >Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer >E-mail: rkoberman@gmail=2Ecom >PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683 >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-ports@freebsd=2Eorg mailing list >https://lists=2Efreebsd=2Eorg/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports >To unsubscribe, send any mail to >"freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd=2Eorg" --=20 Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail=2E Please excuse my brevity=2E From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Wed May 31 23:57:58 2017 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org> Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19F81BED4D9 for <freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org>; Wed, 31 May 2017 23:57:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from viclamta22p.bpe.bigpond.com (viclamta22p.bpe.bigpond.com [203.38.21.86]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "", Issuer "Openwave Messaging Inc." (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E4D3671896 for <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org>; Wed, 31 May 2017 23:57:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from smtp.telstra.com ([10.10.26.4]) by viclafep22p-svc.bpe.nexus.telstra.com.au with ESMTP id <20170531205217.BPJY1993.viclafep22p-svc.bpe.nexus.telstra.com.au@smtp.telstra.com> for <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org>; Thu, 1 Jun 2017 06:52:17 +1000 X-RG-Spam: Unknown X-Junkmail-Premium-Raw: score=7/83, refid=2.7.2:2017.5.31.193616:17:7.944, ip=, rules=__HAS_FROM, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __TO_NAME, __TO_NAME_DIFF_FROM_ACC, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __IN_REP_TO, __HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT, __MIME_VERSION, __CT, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN, __SUBJ_ALPHA_NEGATE, __NO_HTML_TAG_RAW, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_400_LESS, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS, BODY_SIZE_300_399, __MIME_TEXT_P1, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY, HTML_00_01, HTML_00_10, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS, IN_REP_TO, MSG_THREAD, __TO_REAL_NAMES, LEGITIMATE_SIGNS, NO_URI_FOUND, NO_CTA_URI_FOUND, BODY_SIZE_1000_LESS, BODY_SIZE_2000_LESS, __MIME_TEXT_P, REFERENCES, NO_URI_HTTPS, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org (110.141.193.233) by smtp.telstra.com (9.0.019.16-1) id 5910AC9B046758D2 for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Thu, 1 Jun 2017 06:52:17 +1000 Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v4VKqGuq014279 for <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org>; Thu, 1 Jun 2017 06:52:16 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id v4VKqF7F014276 for <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org>; Thu, 1 Jun 2017 06:52:16 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) X-Authentication-Warning: aneurin.horsfall.org: dave owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2017 06:52:15 +1000 (EST) From: Dave Horsfall <dave@horsfall.org> To: FreeBSD Ports <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: The future of portmaster [and of ports-mgmt/synth] In-Reply-To: <d8ba380d-50e7-c110-d3e4-d12c718c7144@intersonic.se> Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.20.1706010649590.14149@aneurin.horsfall.org> References: <589B133C-0175-4DD2-8847-5A3E0E697B36@dsl-only.net> <20170530200629.GA10517@lonesome.com> <b0af0ae5-74fc-b932-5d4a-3697c5d3e666@intersonic.se> <20170530215306.GB11098@lonesome.com> <CAN6yY1stP9iFs5in-J4VGqLP88p_CEcykerDNePxm9490GiG4w@mail.gmail.com> <d8ba380d-50e7-c110-d3e4-d12c718c7144@intersonic.se> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) X-Home-Page: http://www.horsfall.org/ X-Witty-Saying: "chmod 666 the_mode_of_the_beast" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD <freebsd-ports.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-ports>, <mailto:freebsd-ports-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/>; List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-ports@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-ports-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports>, <mailto:freebsd-ports-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 May 2017 23:57:58 -0000 On Wed, 31 May 2017, Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > Let me just say that I would really, really appriciate if we could keep > such a simple tool. Why does it suit us? Because we have a limited > number of systems, [...] And the sytems we do have can be somewhat limited; I mean, Ada, FFS? -- Dave Horsfall DTM (VK2KFU) "Those who don't understand security will suffer."
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