From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 20 3:24:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dire.bris.ac.uk (dire.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79BB237B400 for ; Mon, 20 May 2002 03:24:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk by dire.bris.ac.uk with SMTP-PRIV with ESMTP; Mon, 20 May 2002 11:23:56 +0100 Received: from cmjg (helo=localhost) by mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk with local-esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 179kHp-0004rw-00; Mon, 20 May 2002 11:21:05 +0100 Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 11:21:05 +0100 (BST) From: Jan Grant X-X-Sender: cmjg@mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk To: Steve Mazerski Cc: Dan Nelson , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: "Base system" applications, files (newby-ish questions) In-Reply-To: <200205192332.47158.smazerski@yahoo.co.jp> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 19 May 2002, Steve Mazerski wrote: > On Sunday 19 May 2002 22:23, Dan Nelson wrote: > > In the last episode (May 19), Steve Mazerski said: > > > (...) > > > 1. "Base system" applications > > > > > > not quite sure what the technical term is, but FreeBSD installs a > > > certain number of applications as part of the basic installation. Is > > > there any way of generating an overview (a la pkg_info) of which > > > applications / versions thereof are installed? > > > > For the most part, you can assume the version of all the binaries is > > "4.5", or whatever version of BSD you just installed. > > Sorry, forgot to mention. I installed 4.5-RELEASE. > > > The base > > system is pretty much treated as a single unit. Exceptions are > > programs that are actively maintained outside of FreeBSD: gcc, ntpd, > > ssh, etc. The release engineers try not to upgrade these, preferring > > to merge in only security fixes. Makes it easier to people to upgrade > > without having to redo all their config files. > > Does that mean updates to these are made available between > FreeBSD releases, or only with each successive release? Updates are made available continuously. What you're looking for is described as "tracking -stable" (or possibly, just tracking security fixes to the release) and is described in the handbook: generally, this is done by keeping the source to the base system up-to-date with a tool such as cvsup and rebuildint the world. This is a simple task these days. There _is_ an effort to packageise the whole of the base system; in which case, binary upgrades should become simpler. But this is still something that's slated for the future. [other questions seem to have been answered] -- jan grant, ILRT, University of Bristol. http://www.ilrt.bris.ac.uk/ Tel +44(0)117 9287088 Fax +44 (0)117 9287112 RFC822 jan.grant@bris.ac.uk Prolog in JavaScript: http://ioctl.org/logic/prolog-latest To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message