From owner-freebsd-advocacy Fri Jul 31 22:37:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA04802 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 22:37:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from obie.softweyr.com ([204.68.178.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA04796 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 22:36:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from softweyr.com (zaphod.softweyr.com [204.68.178.35]) by obie.softweyr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA21546; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 23:36:44 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Message-ID: <35C2A96B.21171C81@softweyr.com> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 23:36:43 -0600 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr llc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brett Taylor CC: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: questions.... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Brett Taylor wrote: > ----------------------FreeBSD portion of the chart--------------------- > > Release 2.2.7 > Based on BSD-4.4 Based on 4.4 BSD Lite (in case any lawyers read this) > Date of release July 28, 1998 > > Cost > ------ > Cost $39.95 (for any number of users) Cost Free - CD-ROM media available for $5 - $40 > Software Development kit included > > Supported standards > ------------------- > Unix branding none Perhaps we should come up with our own brand that will encompass BSD-derived systems? > Security none > #Other ?? UFS ?? (they have the Linux File system > listed) none - Linux File System Standard is a standard for file system layout. We *could* show a list of RFCs a mile long, if you really want to put something here. ;^) > System Limits > ------------- > Minimum CPU 80386 386sx ;^) > # Min/Max RAM 5 MB/ ?? at least 1 GB ?? > Minimum disk 60 MB > # Maximum supported CPU's 1 (what's the max in current???) > Available Clustering none > > Hardware support > ---------------- > ISA/PCI/EISA yes > # IDE modes supported PIO 1-4 ? IDE modes supported PIO 1-4, UDMA > Microchannel no > ISA "Plug-n-play" yes > PC cards (PCMIA) limited > I20 no > Tape/CDROM jukeboxes yes > Hot swap cards no > Sound cards many > Scanners some > Video capture limited > > Filesystems > ------------ > Standard type UFS > # Journaling no ? Definitely no. > # Maximum file/partition size 2 GB/512 GB (in current - ref Dyson email > in mail list archive - stable > # ?) > Fast check/repair no > Disk mirroring yes > Per-user disk quotas yes > Multi-disk filesystem yes > # Available RAID levels 0,1, others? > Mount DOS/CDROM filesystem yes/yes > Support RockRidge/Joliet CDROM yes/yes > # Backup software included BRU ?? tar, pax, cpio, dump/restore (If they count "MSBackup" as backup software, *any* of the above will do) > # Maximum filesystem swap area ? > Hot swap disk support no > > Installation > ------------ > Native package format pkg_add (in tgz) > Also reads none > # Can query/validate packages yes? (I'm not sure what he means here) yes - pkg_info is a query tool > # Floppyless install if using no (is this right?) > bootable CDROM yes (works like a charm) > # Floppies required (min/max) 1/( for everything? - TONS - I think I saw > Greg Lehey say this was around 1400 > w/ the ports collection) > Install from remote TCP server yes > Install from remote IPX server no > # Express choices available ? not sure what this means ? yes - the novice and custom installations save quite a few questions vs. the 'expert' installation > > Development > ----------- > C Compiler included in base (gcc) > Generates FreeBSD a.out (ELF in 3.0) > Standard debugging tools gdb,xxgdb > # Integrated development envir. ? xwpe, Emacs (ouch! turn that flame down, dag nabit!) > Java Development Kit yes > # Available Java tools in house or is this 3rd party? Isn't the Sun Java IDE running (or at least limping) with jdk-1.1.6? > POSIX-compliant shell bash available (csh is not POSIX right?) > Perl yes > Other Scripting languages Python, Scheme, Tcl > > GUI > ---- > X Server supplied XFree86 > Std. GUI environment in development (X-desktop contest) twm + xterm. Better ones to follow, after the contest. > Optional environments KDE, AfterStep, WindowMaker, Blackbox, FVWM*, > icewm, etc ctwm, olvwm, etc., etc., ad nauseum. > Standard toolkit (depends) Athena > Optional X toolkits Gtk, Tk, Qt, Motif, Lesstif > > Connectivity > ------------ > NFS server/client yes/yes > NIS server/client yes/yes > NetWare server/client yes/yes (netcon) > CIFS (SMB) server/client yes/yes (Samba) > Bootp/DHCP yes/yes > Macintosh networking yes > > Network services > ---------------- > Standard web server Apache > Optional web server Netscape (BSDi under emulation) > Telnet server/client yes/yes > Network Address Translation yes > Firewall services yes > Base SMTP server sendmail > Optional SMTP server qmail smail, smtpd, exim (my ISP uses this and loves it) > POP/IMAP server yes yes, several: qpopper, cucipop, imap-uw, cyrus > Mailing list management yes (majordomo) > # Windows Internet Name Server ? Does Samba include this now? > Internet Domain Name Server yes > PPP client/server yes/yes > # DCE yes? > > Emulation > --------- > # Windows 3.1 no? > Windows95/98/NT limited (Wine) > DOS yes (pcemu in 2.2.7, rundos in 3.0) > SCO UnixWare/OpenServer/Xenix yes > Linux ELF yes > Other BSDi,NetBSD > > System administration > --------------------- > GUI-Based no > Character-Based yes > Web-Based no > Enterprise Network Admin optional (scotty) > # Printed manuals ? do they mean a paper manual or man pages Yes - "The Complete FreeBSD", O'Reilly 4.4 BSD manuals, plus on-line man pages -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC http://www.softweyr.com/~softweyr wes@softweyr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message