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Date:      Fri, 19 Jan 2001 15:25:08 -0800 (PST)
From:      opentrax@email.com
To:        brett@lariat.org
Cc:        tlambert@primenet.com, greywolf@starwolf.com, reg@FreeBSD.ORG, kris@catonic.net, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, netbsd-advocacy@NetBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Why did NetBSD and FreeBSD diverge?
Message-ID:  <200101192325.PAA02094@spammie.svbug.com>
In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010119090519.00e2ff00@localhost>

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On 19 Jan, Brett Glass wrote:
> At 12:18 AM 1/19/2001, Greywolf wrote:
> 
>>Beg pardon, good sirs, but is this what usually happens on the FreeBSD
>>lists, or is this back-and-forth merely an anomaly provided for the
>>amusement of the casually-included NetBSD crowd?
>>
>>When there was a statement made about "hazing", it was made to sound
>>as though it covered both NetBSD and FreeBSD.  Observing the ping-pong
>>match in progress, I think I can safely say that the newbies in NetBSD
>>are treated with much less of a hazing than they are in FreeBSD.  Why
>>this is, I'm not sure.
> 
> I think that this is because the NetBSD crowd, overall, is far more laid
> back than the FreeBSD crowd. When one enters a group of FreeBSDers, there's
> a fairly good chance that one will bump up against one big ego or another.
> The probability isn't 100%; that's why you'll hear some people say, "I
> had no trouble" while others -- including me -- have been roundly excoriated
> from Day One. And there's a "pile on" phenomenon; when someone in a key
> position decides that a newbie is a threat and flames him or her, others will
> join in.
> 
I have to agree, at least for the sake of Terry's paper.
There will be large denials of this, but I experience this "pile on"
behaviour myself, sometime because of my own manner-of-being.
None the less, the behaviour is experience and almost positive
Terry has an equation for this. :-)

				Best Regards,
				Jessem.





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