From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 5 12:14:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5DB116A403; Thu, 5 Oct 2006 12:14:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [209.31.154.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C094243D5E; Thu, 5 Oct 2006 12:13:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [209.31.154.41]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AB4C46D39; Thu, 5 Oct 2006 08:13:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 13:13:51 +0100 (BST) From: Robert Watson X-X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: Ricardo Nabinger Sanchez In-Reply-To: <20061004105033.b52bb860.rnsanchez@wait4.org> Message-ID: <20061005131248.R46123@fledge.watson.org> References: <20061004105033.b52bb860.rnsanchez@wait4.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: markm@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PRNG on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2006 12:14:04 -0000 On Wed, 4 Oct 2006, Ricardo Nabinger Sanchez wrote: > Snooping around Wikipedia, I got curious about if it'd worth the effort > going from Yarrow [1] to Fortuna [2] algorithm, as the authors (seems to) > claim that the latter is better/more secure. > > As someone (me) who knows very little on how to effectively compromise a > PRNG, what are the tradeoffs? Yarrow is simpler/faster than Fortuna? Yarrow is an older PRNG algorithm, and Fortuna is (as I understand it) generally considered its successor. Mark Murray (CC'd), who implemented our current /dev/random and Yarrow code, has been working on a Fortuna implementation for FreeBSD. Robert N M Watson Computer Laboratory University of Cambridge