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Date:      Thu, 7 Feb 2008 19:39:47 +0200
From:      Nikolay Pavlov <qpadla@gmail.com>
To:        freebsd-arch@freebsd.org
Cc:        freebsd-fs@freebsd.org, Doug Barton <dougb@freebsd.org>, Jeff Roberson <jeff@freebsd.org>, Yar Tikhiy <yar@freebsd.org>, Attilio Rao <attilio@freebsd.org>, Scot Hetzel <swhetzel@gmail.com>
Subject:   Re: [RFC] Remove NTFS kernel support
Message-ID:  <200802071939.48039.qpadla@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <70e8236f0802070321n9097d3fy1b39f637b3c2a06@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thursday 07 February 2008 13:21:34 Joao Barros wrote:
> On Feb 7, 2008 1:00 AM, Attilio Rao <attilio@freebsd.org> wrote:
> > As exposed by several users, NTFS seems to be broken even before first
> > VFS commits happeing around the end of December. Those commits exposed
> > some problems about NTFS which are currently under investigation.
> > Ultimately, This filesystem is also unmaintained at the moment.
> >
> > Speaking with jeff, we agreed on what can be a possible compromise:
> > remove the kernel support for NTFS and maybe take care of the FUSE
> > implementation.
> > What I now propose is a small survey which can shade a light on us
> > about what do you think about this idea and its implications:
> > - Do you use NTFS?
>
> Yes. Important in a dual booting enviroment.
>
> > - Are you interested in maintaining it?
>
> I would If I had the needed knowledge in FS and Kernel. I only have
> availability to offer.
>
> > - Do you know a good reason to not use FUSE ntfs implementation? What
> > the kernel counter part adds?
>
> Yes: Speed.

I think this is related only for FreeBSD:
http://www.ntfs-3g.org/performance.html
I've used it on linux before and the performance was in pair to kernel 
implementation. 

> A year ago when building my zfs box I had to migrate 500GB of data off
> NTFS. FUSE ntfs is WAY slow. I didn't do a proper benchmark then but I
> could setup something now if interest arises.
> I didn't have any problems like those being reported with CURRENT from
> April 2007 if I recall the date correctly when I copied all that data.
>
> > - Do you think axing the kernel support a good idea?
>
> Yes if...
>
> Yes if FUSE ntfs can have performance on par with the current ntfs
> support. Yes if FUSE ntfs license model doesn't become an issue.
> Yes because FUSE ntfs write support is neat =)



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