From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 21 10: 5:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from servo.ccr.org (servo.ccr.org [198.3.0.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDD1E37B547; Sun, 21 May 2000 10:05:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mo@servo.ccr.org) Received: from servo.ccr.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by servo.ccr.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA01297; Sun, 21 May 2000 13:05:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mo@servo.ccr.org) Message-Id: <200005211705.NAA01297@servo.ccr.org> To: Jonathan Lemon Cc: Darren Reed , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, ps@FreeBSD.ORG, Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca, mo@servo.ccr.org Subject: Re: 4.0_STABLE Broken (was Re: FTP proxy without translation no longer working? (fwd)) In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 21 May 2000 11:55:38 CDT." <20000521115538.E5468@prism.flugsvamp.com> Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 13:05:36 -0400 From: "Mike O'Dell" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG please just unbreak what you broke and then fix it offline. the fact you didn't find it in testing is no reason to subject the world to this problem. IP filtering matters a great deal to some and they expect -stable to be just that - stable. yes, it's a shame there is no regression test suite to catch such problems, but that doesn't absolve you of retracting the change immediately to unbreak things. there are test suites out there which can and do find lots of problems in kernel development - i know - i ran a kernel development group and we did a kernel build and a full regression test *every* day, and you'd be amazed at the impact of some "trivial" changes. maybe one of the testing tool houses might volunteer to run their test suite on a regular basis and publish the results? at least do it as part of a release freeze? surely one of them would like the publicity.... -mo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message