From owner-freebsd-vendors@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 3 00:49:33 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-vendors@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA188106564A for ; Wed, 3 Nov 2010 00:49:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C4C88FC14 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 2010 00:49:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from park.js.berklix.net (p549A4B78.dip.t-dialin.net [84.154.75.120]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id oA30bs47027519; Wed, 3 Nov 2010 00:37:55 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by park.js.berklix.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id oA30bt83064361; Wed, 3 Nov 2010 01:37:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id oA30bnaf064578; Wed, 3 Nov 2010 01:37:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201011030037.oA30bnaf064578@fire.js.berklix.net> to: freebsd-vendors@freebsd.org From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://www.berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://www.berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Mon, 01 Nov 2010 07:06:15 MST." <20101101140615.GA9474@albert.catwhisker.org> Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2010 01:37:49 +0100 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: postmaster@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mailing list freebsd-vendors@freebsd.org is being retired X-BeenThere: freebsd-vendors@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Vendors pre-release coordination List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2010 00:49:34 -0000 David Wolfskill wrote: > The mailing list freebsd-vendors@freebsd.org is being retired for > lack of activity. > > If no valid reasons for retaining the list are expressed to > by 09 Nov 2010, the list is subject to > deactivation at any point on or after 10 Nov 2010. > > Once that happens, new messages for the list will not be accepted. > > Archives of the list will remain available, though folks may need > to be a bit creative in navigating some of the archives maintained > by the FreeBSD project to get to no-longer-current lists. (The > easiest way is probably to access archives by date from > .) > > If you have any concerns about this, please express them as clearly > as possible to as soon as possible. Please > note that Reply-To has been set on this message for your convenience. > > Peace, > david (current hat: postmaster@freebsd.org) > -- > David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org Hi David & all, http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-vendors/ Last real post: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-vendors/2007-August/date.html http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-vendors/2007-August/000029.html that better belonged on another list, & since then spam. Rather than/ before zapping it, should we first consider broadening current definition ? http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-vendors Coordination between the release engineers and vendors developing FreeBSD-based products. Maybe one might boil down & add some ideas from some of this: While a normal tech. discussion list is terminated if not busy; & an announce list is low traffic; perhaps in its nature vendors@ should expect to be very low traffic, yet still be retained ? Both for eg major/minor lib versus kernel & release issues, but also as a list of quiet people who have in the past mastered CDs &/or DVDs &/or emebdded/ bundled on to hardware or systems &/or may in future, & who have already &/or stand ready to consider infrequent/ obscure often more business/ licensing/ bundling type questions etc, of less interest or business experience to mainstream FreeBSD people ? ( Though, long `bike shed' discussions about licensing can periodically occure on practically any open source list, & while many have views, & many write, not all views are equally interesting, & some business oriented enquirers may prefer fewer responses from others who are more likely business oriented ) vendors@ is perhaps an asset when switching into suit mode to present BSD to businesses ? vendors@ is referenced on both FreeBSD.org pages & elsewhere, http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&as_q=vendors%40freebsd&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&num=10&lr=&as_filetype=&ft=i&as_sitesearch=&as_qdr=all&as_rights=&as_occt=any&cr=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&safe=images Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey: BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Mail plain text; Not HTML, quoted-printable & base 64 spam formats. Avoid top posting, it cripples itemised cumulative responses.