From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Sun Apr 12 07:41:09 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4A972B57D3 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2020 07:41:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@puchar.net) Received: from puchar.net (puchar.net [194.1.144.90]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 490NwP01bzz3HF5 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2020 07:41:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@puchar.net) Received: Received: from 127.0.0.1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by puchar.net (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 03C7f6Cj011560 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 12 Apr 2020 09:41:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from puchar-wojtek@puchar.net) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=puchar.net; s=default; t=1586677266; bh=vIuCCDKUwv3AxV2TAevhnlhM65MiSCzG/FG5zDgGWNY=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=dD+SE5dVygZSAD8oD4S8Nh/mkRHzAoj6QcsUWJrASzZpGW86LsaSXEDycwh6kREIa LT8YhZGqy4Q5DyQGKQ3fhYyaWTcSzUWePrWSWqy8WDE5TlSxMOiKLQiUAw8UEGAlxa j3TMZOBrMirVBqticyK/WgzC7w3TPYDBezsjqljk= Received: from localhost (puchar-wojtek@localhost) by puchar.net (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id 03C7f68x011557; Sun, 12 Apr 2020 09:41:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from puchar-wojtek@puchar.net) Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2020 09:41:06 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Joe Berner cc: FreeBSD Hackers Subject: Re: Ars Technica article on FreeBSD new user experience In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 490NwP01bzz3HF5 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=fail (rsa verify failed) header.d=puchar.net header.s=default header.b=dD+SE5dV; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of wojtek@puchar.net designates 194.1.144.90 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=wojtek@puchar.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.79 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; R_DKIM_REJECT(1.00)[puchar.net:s=default]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[puchar.net]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[puchar.net:-]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[90.144.1.194.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; IP_SCORE(-2.50)[ip: (-6.60), ipnet: 194.1.144.0/24(-3.30), asn: 43476(-2.64), country: PL(0.06)]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:43476, ipnet:194.1.144.0/24, country:PL]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2020 07:41:09 -0000 > upgrades to get X server working correctly again with all the peripherals. > > 2) A wifi tool that's easier to use. wpa_supplicant is fine for those > already very comfortable with command line stuff. it's excellent. i used it first time after reading manual and did exactly what i wanted. What's wrong in it?