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Date:      Sat, 15 Jul 2000 14:10:31 -0700
From:      Gregory Sutter <gsutter@zer0.org>
To:        Dan Langille <dan@langille.org>
Cc:        "Jeroen C. van Gelderen" <jeroen@vangelderen.org>, freebsd-chat@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: changing a name server at INTERNIC
Message-ID:  <20000715141031.D2807@klapaucius.zer0.org>
In-Reply-To: <397179A6.254.3400C812@localhost>; from dan@langille.org on Sun, Jul 16, 2000 at 09:00:22AM %2B1200
References:  <397092EC.26585.307B4505@localhost>; <20000715134815.B32922@klapaucius.zer0.org> <397179A6.254.3400C812@localhost>

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On 2000-07-16 09:00 +1200, Dan Langille <dan@langille.org> wrote:
> On 15 Jul 2000, at 13:48, Gregory Sutter wrote:
> > On 2000-07-15 16:35 +1200, Dan Langille <dan@langille.org> wrote:
> > > On 15 Jul 2000, at 0:30, Jeroen C. van Gelderen wrote:
> > > > Dan Langille wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > Network Solutions (Internic) won't let me change the name of
> > > > > ns.freebsddiary.cx to ns1.unixatjome.org because ns1.unixathome.org
> > > > > is not registered.  I try to register ns1.unixathome.org but it says
> > > > > 203.79.82.27 is already registered.  And an IP address is required so
> > > > > I can't leave that field blank.  Seems like a catch-22 to me.
> > > >
> > > > Move your domain to any OpenSRS based registrar. This has 
> > > > two benefits:
> > > > - web-based updates to your domain registrations
> > > > - punish NSI for ripping you off
> > > > 
> > > > and one drawback:
> > > > - you need to purchase an additional one year of 
> > > >   registration (~$12.50)
> > > 
> > > That is the one thing which prevents me from swapping registrars.
> > 
> > $12.50 is worth all this trouble to you?  
> 
> It's not just US$12.50 AFAIK.  There are ten domains in question.  And 
> that's not much money if one has lots of money in the first place.  I do not 
> have such money.  Having had only 2 months of paid work in the past ten, 
> it is an expense I an not prepared to meet right now.
> 
> > That's hardly a drawback,
> > considering the amount you've spent just trying to get NSI's
> > problems fixed.  Suck it up and do the transfer.
> 
> My time is free.  However frustrating it may be to deal with NSI, it's 

I was referring to your international phone calls and long-distance
faxes.  That probably adds up to more than a domain transfer right 
there. 

> about my only option.  My bank account is empty.  If I'd worked all of 
> the past 6 or 7 months, I'd not be hesitating.  But having barely kept my 
> house over the past year, I'd rather not spend money if I can avoid it.

I can see how spending money right now is not your favorite thing.  
However, consider that NSI will bend you over and extract $35 per
domain per year, which is considerably more than you'll pay at 
another registrar.  What do you plan to do when freebsddiary.com is
up for renewal?

If you can't afford to transfer all the domains, then I suggest
that as your domains near renewal time, you transfer them one-by-one. 
You'll have to deal with the name server issue in the meantime, but
you'll be rid of NSI eventually.

Also, if you need a spare name server to use so that you can
de/reregister yours, I would be happy to provide name service for
you from ns1.zer0.org for as long as it takes you to set NSI 
straight.

Greg
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