From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 9 16:19:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: chat@Freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7D5416A41C for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 16:19:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dkelly@HiWAAY.net) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4B24C43D4C for ; Sat, 9 Jul 2005 16:19:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dkelly@HiWAAY.net) Received: (qmail 16615 invoked by uid 0); 9 Jul 2005 16:19:36 -0000 Received: from user-69-73-60-132.knology.net (HELO ?10.0.0.6?) (69.73.60.132) by smtp6.knology.net with SMTP; 9 Jul 2005 16:19:36 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) In-Reply-To: References: <9A4DB033-3EF6-498F-8DF7-FD402C8E5D9C@tamu.edu> <2D41F1BE-5813-4A04-A3B2-7AEF78D58FC5@HiWAAY.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David Kelly Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 11:19:33 -0500 To: chat@Freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) Cc: Subject: Re: Software patents and FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 16:19:38 -0000 On Jul 8, 2005, at 11:23 PM, R. Tyler Ballance wrote: > Doesn't the fact that the patent office is unable to check for > prior art make software patents inherently evil? There is almost no > plausible way, given the nature of the internet, to check for prior > art in software. Especially if companies are trying to patent > computing concepts, like email, or a web server, etc. The fact that its implemented in software doesn't change anything. There is no way any patent claim can cover all possible prior art, nobody ever claimed it could. A patent is not an absolute grant of license from the government, but a registration of claim of invention. That on initial investigation the government agrees that its likely one invented the claimed and a patent is issued. Then one must defend their patent against claimed infringement and in doing so puts the patent at risk. If the infringer demonstrates prior art then the patent becomes unenforceable. A patent grants the right to sue for 20 years in exchange for public disclosure as to the details of the invention. In exchange for that exclusivity after 20 years the disclosed claims of the invention is public domain and remains an easy reference of prior art. If one believes "software patents" are a problem then the solution is to amass a searchable library of documented prior art to nip the not-new- invention patent applications in the bud. Search a bit online, there are several projects doing exactly that. Software is nothing new to the patent process, its simply a different angle. There have always been those who claim patents are bad, that "everything has already been invented." On the other hand the only countries who grow their economies with innovation have strong patent laws. Nothing of significance is invented in the absence of patent protection. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad.