From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 11 03:28:09 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A771616A4CE for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 03:28:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp3.server.rpi.edu (smtp3.server.rpi.edu [128.113.2.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FB7E43D31 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 03:28:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.netel.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by smtp3.server.rpi.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j1B3S7uW019120; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 22:28:08 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200502102013.14837.m.hauber@mchsi.com> References: <200502091349.00708.algould@datawok.com> <255946599.20050210234603@wanadoo.fr> <20050210154833.G81852@server1.ultratrends.com> <200502102013.14837.m.hauber@mchsi.com> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 22:28:07 -0500 To: m.hauber@mchsi.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Garance A Drosihn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-CanItPRO-Stream: default X-RPI-SA-Score: undef - spam-scanning disabled X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . canit . ca) Subject: Re: Logo Contest X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 03:28:09 -0000 At 8:13 PM -0500 2/10/05, Mike Hauber wrote: >And quite frankly, it doesn't take weeks to figure out how to use >correct grammar in an announcement or a responce (and even if the >grammar is left _so_ wanting, take a look at the archives for this >list. It can't be all _that_ bad, can it?) Who are you to make these pronouncements of "reality"? How do you know the exact length of time it takes to get 400 developers to agree on *anything* -- never mind the wording of a public announcement? The site was written by a developer whose primary language is Japanese. Just how long would it take you to write a web page in perfect Japanese? Sure, be a smug smart-ass about how great your own damn grammar is. However, FreeBSD is a world-wide project, with hard-working developers from many countries whose primary language is NOT english. Stop thinking that the entire world revolves around the lifestyle that you happen to live in. >Thank you in advance for at least a reasonable response. Thank you for another set of ill-informed and insulting speculation. It's always a pleasure dealing with "friends" who are so willing to see conspiracies at every turn. I'm also glad you didn't waste any time reading any of the other messages which I have written in this mailing list. Much better to let your own demented accusations fly, then to give anyone the benefit of the doubt, or to actually read what they are saying. >Mike >(FreeBSD devotee & evangelist (for now)) And me, I'm speaking solely as Garance Drosehn, FreeBSD committer for the past four years. I have done maybe a dozen presentations for FreeBSD to public groups in that time. What "evangelism" have you done? Actual evangelism, in front of a live audience? I, for one, am damn tired of explaining some stupid Unix inside-joke to people, at the same time that I'm trying to convince those same people that FreeBSD is a professional, grown-up operating system. An operating system. Code that works. That is what I care about. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu