From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 2 21:20:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46FA816A41F for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 21:20:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matthias.andree@gmx.de) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5758043D58 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 21:19:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matthias.andree@gmx.de) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 02 Jan 2006 21:19:57 -0000 Received: from p5091360C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO merlin) [80.145.54.12] by mail.gmx.net (mp039) with SMTP; 02 Jan 2006 22:19:57 +0100 X-Authenticated: #428038 Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 22:19:56 +0100 From: Matthias Andree To: Poul-Henning Kamp Message-ID: <20060102211956.GA10928@merlin.emma.line.org> Mail-Followup-To: Poul-Henning Kamp , current@freebsd.org References: <80432.1136235223@critter.freebsd.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <80432.1136235223@critter.freebsd.dk> X-PGP-Key: http://home.pages.de/~mandree/keys/GPGKEY.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: Matthias Andree , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD handles leapsecond correctly X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 21:20:01 -0000 On Mon, 02 Jan 2006, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message , Matthias Andree writes: > > >And tell me one reason why the leap second must be discontinued while > >the leap day (Feb 29th) can be carried on. It's the same story, > >irregular rollover, inserting one particular unit of time. > > You are clearly not thinking rationally here. > > I know already now that year 2048 will be a leap year, but I still > don't know if there will be a leap second on june 30th 2006. And you can predict the DST rules for all major countries for 2048? Who says the EU won't discontinue DST effective 2008? We don't know yet. You suggest UTC needs to be used because civil time matters, yet at the same time UTC were broken, and thus POSIX were broken, but could not be blamed for picking UTC. Leap days (called leap year, to compensate for earth orbiting the sun), leap hours (called daylight savings time, completely artificial); aren't questioned, but leap seconds are. Is it just me who sees inconsistencies in your argumentation here? No offense, but I simply don't get your point. Another question: Did you mean to write "FreeBSD handles leapsecond in POSIX compliance" for the subject? -- Matthias Andree