From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jul 24 11:46:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from privatecube.privatelabs.com (privatecube.privatelabs.com [198.143.31.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 570E637BC38; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 11:46:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@virtual-estates.net) Received: from misha.privatelabs.com (misha.privatelabs.com [198.143.31.6]) by privatecube.privatelabs.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA23019; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 13:45:36 -0400 Received: from virtual-estates.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by misha.privatelabs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA34534; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 14:42:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi@virtual-estates.net) Message-Id: <200007241842.OAA34534@misha.privatelabs.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 14:42:05 -0400 (EDT) From: mi@aldan.algebra.com Subject: Re: Recommended compilation optimizations To: obrien@freebsd.org Cc: John Baldwin , stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20000724104644.A63144@dragon.nuxi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 24 Jul, David O'Brien wrote: = On Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 01:29:11PM -0400, mi@aldan.algebra.com wrote: = > Instead of encouraging bug-reports, the attitude has so far been: = > "well, if you use high optimization -- you are on your own", = = But reports are of course welcomed. The attituded is for those that = want working binaries vs. setting up an environment to test bugs. Please, allow me to one more time restate my point before the audience gets bored. I think, the developers should be using the higher optimization (as well as other not-so-well-tested features of other parts of FreeBSD) themselves. That way, when they hit a bug, it is much more likely that a sensible and helpful bug report will be constructed. Much like mayors need to use their cities' public transportation... As the bug report I mentioned earlier illustrates, there are FreeBSD-specific problems with the optimization. The reason it is not fixed yet is because of the attitude I cited. Just imagine vi not working and recommendations to use ee instead -- as a working environment, of course, rather than that set up "to test bugs"... -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message