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Date:      Mon, 20 Nov 2000 14:50:49 +0200 (IST)
From:      Roman Shterenzon <roman@harmonic.co.il>
To:        Mike Smith <msmith@FreeBSD.ORG>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Dangerously Dedicated 
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.4.10.10011201449050.4329-100000@shark.harmonic.co.il>
In-Reply-To: <200011192231.eAJMVIF09854@mass.osd.bsdi.com>

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On Sun, 19 Nov 2000, Mike Smith wrote:

> > > > Using what I consider to be a artifact of another operating system on a
> > > > machine that doesn't use that OS seems silly to me. Unless, of course,
> > > > that artifact has some useful feature(s) or functionality. If it does, I'm
> > > > all ears.
> > > 
> > > What "you consider" doesn't have much bearing on the situation.  As for 
> > > useful functionality, this has been done to death.  It should be enough 
> > > for you to accept that the platform requires it
> > 
> > Except that it doesn't, as 'dangerously dedicated' mode shows.
> 
> "DD" mode has never worked properly.  Ever since it's been in existence, 
> it's show that a valid slice table is necessary.
> 
> > >, and that a goodly slice 
> > > of platform-compliant firmware and software will fail in undesirable ways 
> > > if it's not present.  All of which has been explained in excruciating 
> > > detail before.
> > 
> > Except that the software hasn't always required it previously, and it
> > previously did not fail.
> 
> It has, and it previously did fail.
> 
> > Some would call this 'regression', but I suppose others will call it
> > 'progress'.
> 
> Some would just call it "making stuff work", which is the whole point of 
> the exercise.

This is a really long thread indeed.
Could someone sum it up, and say why the current way isn't good?
The sysinstall asks and warns about the "DD" mode, isn't that sufficient?

--Roman Shterenzon, UNIX System Administrator and Consultant
[ Xpert UNIX Systems Ltd., Herzlia, Israel. Tel: +972-9-9522361 ]



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