From owner-freebsd-chat Sat Apr 15 21:38:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mail.hiwaay.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00D9337B535 for ; Sat, 15 Apr 2000 21:38:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dkelly@hiwaay.net) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (tnt8-216-180-71-123.dialup.hiwaay.net [216.180.71.123]) by mail.hiwaay.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e3G4cPD20999; Sat, 15 Apr 2000 23:38:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nospam.hiwaay.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA32648; Sat, 15 Apr 2000 23:37:42 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net) Message-Id: <200004160437.XAA32648@nospam.hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Sue Blake Cc: Christian Weisgerber , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG From: David Kelly Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/contrib/tcsh - Imported sources In-reply-to: Message from Sue Blake of "Sun, 16 Apr 2000 13:30:22 +1000." <20000416133021.P3179@welearn.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 23:37:41 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sue Blake writes: > Just because we all agree that csh is bad, doesn't mean that any We don't all agree that csh is bad. At the command line csh is well worth having for its history mechanism. While BSD sh has history, I've not seen the default sh on SGI or Sun systems with same features. When I was running a mixed shop new users got tcsh. Those who had other preferences knew to ask for a change if the system didn't allow them to change it for themselves. Most asked for help when they advanced to the point of writing scripts. Then the first lesson I gave them was, "first line of the script has to be, '#!/bin/sh' ...." No contest from me in that csh scripting is fatally flawed. Did tcsh replace csh, or was tcsh simply added? Big difference. I'm all in favor of replacing csh in the base system. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message