From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Apr 21 22:35:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C8BE37B422 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 22:35:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3M5ZDk54855; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 22:35:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Eric Jacoboni" , Subject: RE: Duplicating Audio CDs Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 22:35:13 -0700 Message-ID: <00b801c0caee$00f41fc0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <86vgnx93ul.fsf@titine.fr.eu.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Eric Jacoboni > >I spoke about masquerade because some people complains about lack of >cdrecord under FreeBSD with ATAPI devices. Sure, the solution is to >buy SCSI devices but, sure also, ATAPI devices are cheaper and more >common on low end boxes. Masquerading don't hurt me in such a I have heard that the ATAPI standard for CDROM's basically is the SCSI standard - the ATAPI developers stole most of the SCSI commands from SCSI-2 and put it on ATAPI. I would suspect that an emulation layer would not be tremendously difficult to write - for at least a basic CDROM. Of course the devil is in the details and it would rapidly get more complicated as more and more oddball devices were supported. > >I'm very happy with burncd, but i think it's a pity to not be able to >use such a well known program as cdrecord with FreeBSD as it's >possible with other OS, that's all: i'm not a FreeBSD developer so i >have to respect the team choice. I don't know if cdrecord with The FreeBSD core team has not made any kind of a decision to DENY an emulation layer that I have heard of. If someone wants to write one I would guess that they would include it. >SCSI-emulation under Linux is better or not than burncd under FreeBSD >but i never heard complains about that. > Then it seems that the task before you is clear - write such an emulation layer. We would all be happy to see it. I myself thought about writing an emulation layer for about 20 microseconds once. I decided that my time was worth enough that I could spend the extra $100 bucks on a SCSI burner, rather than the 200 hours or so it would take me to do a project like this. Also, by spending the $100 bucks I was guarenteed to have a solution that worked - whereas if I attempted to write one then I had no guarentee that I could ever produce a working piece of code. I think that everybody else have made the same decision in FreeBSD which is why there is no emulation layer. Apparently, over in the Linux camp, there is a developer who actually could produce a working emulation layer that didn't come to the same cost-benefit conclusion that we did over here. This just goes to show that no matter how unprofitable an idea is, there is always someone who will do it. Too bad that guy doesen't work on FreeBSD. Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message