From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 13 19:27:28 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FFD2106566B for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:27:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from varga.michal@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f44.google.com (mail-ew0-f44.google.com [209.85.215.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C14EE8FC0C for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:27:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so615624ewy.17 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 12:27:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:in-reply-to:references:content-type:organization :date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=CKgGpNPh18iQeTptTdFGh4UPJ0YgM0ZZH68gG4igNeg=; b=PM4Ob1CAqOTwmbVQL7boUPbDM79wgFLPPNvOY3PBUmHqGOic36B0bHrrCq0D93ObTc CPrbJUT6TN5959j9BVYk2LRKHa78e7OzNCYgE375JrxGfkDvOU+HmdELwuEwgx2SirPw 6ToJnA2uaa5Fn8B0nSGUQP10oXywPyJv2fpHI= Received: by 10.223.44.90 with SMTP id z26mr2186096fae.28.1315942046564; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 12:27:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.101.2] (254.166.broadband10.iol.cz [90.177.166.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p9sm8124866fah.1.2011.09.13.12.27.24 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 13 Sep 2011 12:27:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Michal Varga To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4E6F8A50.9060205@gmx.de> References: <1315864556.1747.103.camel@xenon> <20110912190558.641a3219@seibercom.net> <20110912230943.GD33455@guilt.hydra> <4E6E99BC.4050909@missouri.edu> <1315905051.1747.208.camel@xenon> <4E6F8A50.9060205@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Organization: Stonehenge Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 21:27:22 +0200 Message-ID: <1315942042.1747.258.camel@xenon> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Thank you (for making the ports less boring). X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:27:28 -0000 Sigh, okay. Some time earlier during the day I was still planning to address few interesting points (especially) Stephen raised, but by this time I'm finally getting to it and reading through the rest of the emails, I can see that this would only be a waste of time for everyone involved. Reading now through the posts one after another stating how FreeBSD ports/desktop experience was never more awesomestestest than it is now, I just feel like participating in some kind of bizarro 1st April joke, and the most coherent reply that comes to mind is: Wat. And again. Wat. Did I just read. I have no other words beyond that because I can't even seriously imagine what those people stating how everything is perfectly fine now consider to be a working, modern, 24/7 ready desktop workstation. Though if I had to pick a random case again, it probably wouldn't be too hard to make some wildly unsubstantiated guesses: ## From: Matthias Andree ## Mailer: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.21) Still I thank everyone for polite replies which were actually a welcome change for this kind of threads, but as there is obviously something fundamentally different between how I and rest of you guys perceive an actually working FreeBSD (or any other, for the matter) workstation, I'm going to let it go, this is not the kind fight one would be able to win in any case. For the next years, I'll be much better off with finishing my migration to another system where the base OS will hardly ever be as good and clean as FreeBSD, but the overall quality of 24/7 ready, stable, modern desktop OS as a whole is by far too wide margin different from what I gather is currently considered 'acceptable' here, in FreeBSD (ports) circles. No offense meant, in any case. m. -- Michal Varga, Stonehenge (Gmail account)