From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 22 23:20:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A6B416A4CE; Fri, 22 Oct 2004 23:20:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D905943D2D; Fri, 22 Oct 2004 23:20:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id i9MNKL5v010769; Fri, 22 Oct 2004 16:20:21 -0700 Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0/Submit) id i9MNKLV1010767; Fri, 22 Oct 2004 16:20:21 -0700 Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 16:20:21 -0700 From: Brooks Davis To: Scott Long Message-ID: <20041022232021.GB27956@odin.ac.hmc.edu> References: <417960C2.8040007@freebsd.org> <20041022194008.GA23778@odin.ac.hmc.edu> <41796396.5070804@freebsd.org> <41796D6D.7000108@freebsd.org> <41799315.70201@elischer.org> <41799396.9090307@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tsOsTdHNUZQcU9Ye" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41799396.9090307@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=8.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on odin.ac.hmc.edu cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: Garance A Drosihn cc: Julian Elischer Subject: Re: Annoying SCSI waiting... X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 23:20:08 -0000 --tsOsTdHNUZQcU9Ye Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Oct 22, 2004 at 05:11:18PM -0600, Scott Long wrote: > Julian Elischer wrote: > > > > > >Scott Long wrote: > > > >> > >>For just about everyone, a value of 2 seconds or less is just fine. > >>For those with tape drives, changers, and (less likely) cdroms, a > >>long delay after reset is still quite necessary. There are two knobs > >>to adjust this, and I'd like GENERIC to remain compatible. It's 15 > >>seconds, not 2 minutes. You get a longer delay that that just trying > >>to set up the inital page tables on a large memory machine!=20 > > > > > > > >for some reason the actual wait time always seems t be twice the > >nominated one for me.. > >i.e. 15 seconds really seems ot take 30 seconds etc. >=20 > I'm willing to crank it down to 5 sec in HEAD. However, before I go=20 > changing a whole bunch of identical lines in nearly identical GENERIC > files, I'd like to see GENERIC get split into several sub-modules that > live in /sys/conf and can be included instead of constantly duplicated. > i.e. >=20 > /sys/conf: > /SCSI > /BLOCK > /NIC > /USB > /FIREWIRE >=20 > etc. Some form of this seems reasionable. I pity the person who has to fight that battle over which bucket goes where though. :-) > Again, only for HEAD, not for RELENG_5. Thoughts? That's fine with me. I'd even go so far as to say that bumping the number for anything that wasn't a completly propriotary device would be fine with me. -- Brooks --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --tsOsTdHNUZQcU9Ye Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD4DBQFBeZW1XY6L6fI4GtQRAnHUAJdKAdsVisJmbO9ox0nkBiRIimGbAKC+Mw2J +NYPNLACSNuau/yK/BKgDA== =4mo9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tsOsTdHNUZQcU9Ye--