From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Tue Oct 25 20:58:09 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5662C216C7 for ; Tue, 25 Oct 2016 20:58:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from nskntmtas06p.mx.bigpond.com (nskntmtas06p.mx.bigpond.com [61.9.168.152]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "InterMail Test Certificate", Issuer "Certificate Authority" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4755D66D for ; Tue, 25 Oct 2016 20:58:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from nskntcmgw05p ([61.9.169.165]) by nskntmtas06p.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20161025205759.KCTO2096.nskntmtas06p.mx.bigpond.com@nskntcmgw05p> for ; Tue, 25 Oct 2016 20:57:59 +0000 Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org ([120.146.8.15]) by nskntcmgw05p with BigPond Outbound id zwxz1t0060KTh7401wxzmv; Tue, 25 Oct 2016 20:57:59 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=Lc3BkWri c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=4q38a75ucWZEoAuqF1Taiw==:117 a=4q38a75ucWZEoAuqF1Taiw==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=CH0kA5CcgfcA:10 a=SASBNSonazibFmwJgmoA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 Received: from aneurin.horsfall.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id u9PKvw8m082061 for ; Wed, 26 Oct 2016 07:57:59 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by aneurin.horsfall.org (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id u9PKvvbB082058 for ; Wed, 26 Oct 2016 07:57:58 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from dave@horsfall.org) X-Authentication-Warning: aneurin.horsfall.org: dave owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 07:57:57 +1100 (EST) From: Dave Horsfall To: FreeBSD Ports Subject: Re: Inconsistency? (was Re: misc/jive deleted) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20161022161428.GA7234@lonesome.com> <201610232306.u9NN5qN0091649@fire.js.berklix.net> <20161024021013.GZ51420@home.opsec.eu> <731fbd25-7c43-f2b1-088a-59efa0a7f61d@jetcafe.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) X-Home-Page: http://www.horsfall.org/ X-Witty-Saying: "chmod 666 the_mode_of_the_beast" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2016 20:58:09 -0000 On Tue, 25 Oct 2016, David Demelier wrote: > I'm a bit surprised to see so much traffic about the jive removal. I'm not :-) > I personally don't care about offensive software, users are free to not > use it (sudo may have funny insults, disabled by default though). > Perhaps marking it broken because it's offensive was inappropriate. Which was the whole point of the argument. > However bapt pointed out some valuable reasons, the software is not > maintained and has no more distfiles available and this was a good > reason for being removed. So once the *technical* requirements have been met (as opposed to someone's delicate sensibilities being offended), it's OK to bring it back? Could be tricky, though, as the sources were posted to USENET some time in the 80s... > And the daemon logo is a ball for several years now, not really a daemon > anymore. :) Have you seen the FreeBSD home page? -- Dave Horsfall DTM (VK2KFU) "Those who don't understand security will suffer."