Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 09:18:55 -0600 From: Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org> To: Rahul Siddharthan <rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in> Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Plagiarism (Was: FreeBSD spokesman) Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010706090739.045bc340@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20010706170429.M99228@lpt.ens.fr> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010706071808.04536ef0@localhost> <20010626174756.A61831@blackhelicopters.org> <20010702211810.B325@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20010703141550.045f5340@localhost> <20010705123729.M371@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20010705125211.04638740@localhost> <20010705224626.O47721@lpt.ens.fr> <4.3.2.7.2.20010705163434.04524b00@localhost> <20010706103808.A99228@lpt.ens.fr> <20010706151421.I99228@lpt.ens.fr> <4.3.2.7.2.20010706071808.04536ef0@localhost>
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At 09:04 AM 7/6/2001, Rahul Siddharthan wrote: >> "The proper use of footnotes and other methods of attribution varies from >> discipline to discipline. Failure to abide by the attribution standards of >> the discipline concerned in the preparation of essays, term papers and >> dissertations or theses may, in some cases, constitute plagiarism. >> >> "Students who are in any doubt about the proper forms of citation and >> attribution of authorities and sources should discuss the matter in advance >> with the faculty members for whom they are preparing assignments. In many >> academic departments, written statem ents on matters of this kind are made >> available as a matter of routine or can be obtained on request." > >Note the word "may". The "may" refers to failure to abide by strict attribution standards. Greg did not attribute my words to me at all. For this reason, there is NO QUESTION that what he did was plagiarism. >"Use" is not defined in the second part, but if we take the meaning >to be the same as in the first clause, the meaning is "use as one's >own", not "quote for reference". Sorry, Rahul, but this is a very weak argument. What Greg did is plagiarism by any standard -- academic or journalistic. Read the THOUSANDS of pages on the Web, published by universities all over the world. There is universal consensus that failing to cite constitutes plagiarism. >> Another authoritative reference: The MLA Style Manual >> (http://www.mla.org/www_mla_org/style/style_index.asp?mode=section) >> which is the gold standard among academic syle guides. My friend >> has this here, too. It states, simply: >> >> "Plagiarism is the use of another person's ideas or expressions >> in your writing without acknowledging the source." > >But he did acknowledge the source, a mailing list. This is akin to saying, "I did acknowledge the source: A book!" --Brett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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