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Date:      Tue, 24 Oct 1995 04:53:25 +0300 (MSK)
From:      =?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?= (aka Andrey A. Chernov, Black Mage) <ache@astral.msk.su>
To:        davidg@Root.COM, Nate Williams <nate@rocky.sri.mt.net>
Cc:        ache@freefall.freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, John Polstra <jdp@polstra.com>
Subject:   Re: ld.so, LD_NOSTD_PATH, and suid/sgid programs
Message-ID:  <FaLS4ZmKU1@ache.dialup.demos.ru>
In-Reply-To: <199510240141.SAA00275@corbin.Root.COM>; from David Greenman at Mon, 23 Oct 1995 18:41:19 -0700
References:  <199510240141.SAA00275@corbin.Root.COM>

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In message <199510240141.SAA00275@corbin.Root.COM> David Greenman
    writes:

>   Any shell script which is suseptible to a security hole because a command
>failed to execute is broken. There are many reasons why things can fail
>ranging from no diskspace available to who knows what. I think Andrey's hack
>is an attempt to dam a river with a piece of tissue paper. The real problem

If we try to plug all potential holes that we find, even small ones,
probability of security violation becomes reduced. I don't plan to dam whole
river, just plug in small leak reducing leaks number at whole.

>   My "vote" is to remove the hack. Regarding telnetd: I really think the
>proper solution to the problem is to do an inclusive env check, not an
>exclusive one. In other words, only specific environment variables should be
>allowed to be set (DISPLAY, TERM, a few others). It's really impossible to know
>what environment variables might lurk out there now and in the future - for
>instance, we check "TZ" in libc, and while I don't know how that could used to
>spoof telnetd/login, stranger things have happend.

For telnetd: I agree. Try to cantact with telnet maintainers on this issue.

-- 
Andrey A. Chernov        : And I rest so composedly,  /Now, in my bed,
ache@astral.msk.su       : That any beholder  /Might fancy me dead -
http://dt.demos.su/~ache : Might start at beholding me,  /Thinking me dead.
RELCOM Team,FreeBSD Team :         E.A.Poe         From "For Annie" 1849



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