From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 9 23:46:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72EC5106566B for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2012 23:46:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from george+freebsd@m5p.com) Received: from mailhost.m5p.com (ip-2-1-0-2.r03.asbnva02.us.ce.gin.ntt.net [IPv6:2001:418:0:5000::16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D6B58FC12 for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2012 23:46:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonderland.m5p.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by mailhost.m5p.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q69Nk0nV054812 for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2012 19:46:05 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from george+freebsd@m5p.com) Message-ID: <4FFB6D37.1040300@m5p.com> Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2012 19:45:59 -0400 From: George Mitchell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120623 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org References: <4FF2E00E.2030502@FreeBSD.org> <86bojxow6x.fsf@ds4.des.no> <89AB703D-E075-4AAC-AC1B-B358CC4E4E7F@lists.zabbadoz.net> <4FF8C3A1.9080805@FreeBSD.org> <20472.51031.308284.775990@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <4FF8C890.9030408@FreeBSD.org> <4FFA7174.7050604@FreeBSD.org> <4FFA7980.4000707@FreeBSD.org> <4FFB46A4.5050504@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4FFB46A4.5050504@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (mailhost.m5p.com [IPv6:::1]); Mon, 09 Jul 2012 19:46:05 -0400 (EDT) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.72 on 10.100.0.3 Subject: Re: Replacing BIND with unbound (Was: Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2012 23:46:06 -0000 On 07/09/12 17:01, Doug Barton wrote: > On 07/09/2012 06:45, Mark Blackman wrote: > >> Indeed, 'dig' and 'host' must be present and working as expected >> in a minimally installed system. > > So if you don't like the versions that get imported, install bind-tools > from ports. > > Doug > Doug, you are one of the people whose writings on the FreeBSD lists I most respect. But I think you are wrong about this one aspect of your proposed change. To discover that "dig" is suddenly not in the base FreeBSD system any more some day would be just about the worst violation of the Principle of Least Astonishment for me in many years. And discovering it just when I'm having trouble downloading packages would be salt in the wound. -- George Mitchell