From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Sep 27 12:25:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from shell.webmaster.com (mail.webmaster.com [216.152.64.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D1E537B410 for ; Thu, 27 Sep 2001 12:25:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whenever ([206.171.168.130]) by shell.webmaster.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-12345L500S10000V35) with SMTP id com; Thu, 27 Sep 2001 12:25:17 -0700 From: David Schwartz To: Cc: , FreeBSD Chat X-Mailer: PocoMail 2.51 (988) - Registered Version Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 12:25:16 -0700 In-Reply-To: <20010927205547.B69066@lpt.ens.fr> Subject: Re: helping victims of terror Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <20010927192517.AAA2063@shell.webmaster.com@whenever> Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >My point is, it's meaningless to say "communism says this". You= could say >"some communists say this", or "this book by a communist leader= says this", >but there is no Bible for communism -- unless it's the Communist= Manifesto, >as I said. > >R =09I'm not sure how you think that conflicts with anything I said.= In any event, I don't agree with it. I think it's pretty clear what= someone means when they say "communism says this". They mean that whatever they= referred to as "this" is either explicitly part of communist ideology,= implied by it, or believed by most people they classify as communist. Obviously,= the criteria for what constitutes communist ideology may differ between= people. =09But what I'm sensing from your other replies is that you hold= the view that no ideology can be judged because in order to do so, you must= hold some standard and obviously any ideology will pass its own standard= and it's not fair to judge one ideology by the standards of another. If you= hold this view, you've fallen for the argument that all beliefs are= deserving of equal credit simply because someone holds them. Half the time, this= leads to rejecting rational arguments with the equivalent of "that's what= you think" and the other half the time, it leads to rendering things beyond= question simply because that's what someone thinks. =09DS To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message