From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 21 22:45:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEFAE16A4CE for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:45:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sun13.bham.ac.uk (sun13.bham.ac.uk [147.188.128.145]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30A0843D39 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:45:55 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from calculus@softhome.net) Received: from [147.188.128.127] (helo=bham.ac.uk) by sun13.bham.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 1Cs7XO-0003Us-00 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:45:54 +0000 Received: from sun16.bham.ac.uk ([147.188.128.149] helo=sun16) by bham.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1Cs7XO-00044s-C7 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:45:54 +0000 Received: from bham.ac.uk ([147.188.128.127]) by sun16 with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 1Cs7XL-0002aj-00 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:45:51 +0000 Received: from sci-fs1.bham.ac.uk ([147.188.118.71]) by bham.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1Cs7XK-00040Y-UX for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:45:50 +0000 Received: from SPECULUSHX1THE not authenticated [147.188.140.97] Novell NetWare; Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:45:50 +0000 Message-ID: <01d801c5000a$f60123f0$0501a8c0@SPECULUSHX1THE> From: "cali" To: References: <20050121212739.0640543D49@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:45:52 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2527 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 X-BHAM-CUBE-wlist: LOCAL sci-fs1.bham.ac.uk X-BHAM-CUBE-processed: yes X-MailScanner-From: calculus@softhome.net Subject: Re: 1st degree verbal assault and battery hate crime at Applebees X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:45:56 -0000 This is the wierdest spam I have ever seen, maybe it is to solicit responses to harvest email addresses for a particular kind of targeted advertising. Or maybe a ludicrous attempt at trolling. cali > Hello questions@freebsd.org, > > Happy New Year to you. > > Well, I ended 2004 by being called a "nigger" several times by a white > terrorist in APPLEBEES on December 30. The reason I'm posting you is to > seek your advice as to what rights I have in a violent verbal assault, > and hate crime situation like this. What would you do if something this > devilish had happened to you? > > This is the second time this has happened to me in the same Applebees. The > first time was about five years ago when I overheard a professional person > using the "N" word to a white woman friend of his as they sat across from > me at the bar. > > She was telling him that she had found a new boyfriend and thought that > things were going to work out well for her. The fellow looked at her and > then said "I hope he's not a "nigger" I was astounded that he had said > something so lowlife in a full club with about 20 people sitting at the > bar and the rest of the tables nearby full as well. > > The bartender had been living with an African American male for over five > years at the time. She looked astounded, and turned to me as if she > couldn't believe her ears. I turned to the white people on each side of > me, and asked them if they were going to say something to the person. They > are always saying that they are not prejudiced. so this would have been > the perfect time for some of them to back up their words with action. > > They did nothing! They just looked at each other in that silly "HUH Head" > look that they utilize when they run into an idea that they had never > considered before on the subject of race. The manager did come out and ask > him to leave. He did so and to my knowledge he has never gone back. I have > seen the fellow in other clubs where the clientele is more receptive to > his modo di pensare. I did nothing official that time. This time I'm > trying to determine what the best way to proceed would be. Here are most > of the facts as to what occurred last Thursday, the 30th of December 2004. > > I went out to Applebees here in Cape Girardeau, Missouri around 2100. I > sat on the north end of the bar next to several young white women. One of > them was named "VanMater" from the Buick family here. I talked to them > about various subjects for about 30 minutes and bought them some > Frangelico. They had never tasted it so I thought I would let them sample > something different since they were kind enough to talk to me a 58 year > young African American. Most whites won't. > > Then they left and a friend of mine from Birmingham Alabama called me on > his cell phone. We talked for about fifteen minutes about the state of the > world and how savage, and inhumane so many Americans are in their thinking > when it comes to how they view others around the world. > > Out of the corner of my right eye, I notice the young blond white woman to > my right pushing a picture of a cute bi-racial child towards me. I picked > it up and looked at it. Then I complimented the female on having a little > girl that was so cute. After a few more minutes of talking to my friend, I > hung up and started talking to the young blonde white woman, her female > friend next to her, and her Canadian boyfriend to her right. > > The blonde's name was what it is. She said she was a hair stylist at a > salon here. I was telling them about how my cousin owned the Harlem > Globetrotter basketball team, and how there had been a couple of streets > named after my mothers family around here. I was basically giving them a > quick history on some black folks who were highly respected in this area. > > After about twenty minutes or so this 40ish white ball cap wearing, truck > driver looking white fellow across the bar asked me when we had graduated > from high school. I told him when I had graduated, and then N told him > when she graduated. The white supremacist then said "One of you is right, > and one of you is a fucking nigger" > > I picked up my cell phone and called the police as the Applebees manager > was not on the scene. I had no idea what that piece of white trash would > do next. After a few minutes Ed, the manager came over to the WS, and told > him that he had to leave the club. > > The fellow got up and slowly walked toward the door selling wolf tickets > all the way. The policeman arrived and he stood in the vestibule and > talked to the manager of Applebees. He never came over and asked me > anything; nor did he advise me of my rights in that situation. > > I'm one of the charter members of Applebees here. I have been going there > since about six months after they opened in 1991, and I've never had a > serious incident like this one > > So I went back to talking to the three people. Now of course we were > talking about the white supremacist and his actions. One white 20ish > female caught my eye, grinned and gave me the thumbs up sign. Apparently > she was happy that he was gone. > > After about 20 minutes, another young white female stopped behind me and > told me that the fellow was still in the parking lot in his truck. None of > the other white men there, except for the canadian fella I was talking to > had anything positive to say to me, and they said nothing to the WS who > started the whole incident. Why am I not surprised? > > So I called the police department again. I relayed the information to the > police and sat back once more. After a few minutes the officer arrived and > for the second time, the Applebees manager met him in the vestibule, and > they talked for a few minutes. Again, the policeman never came over to > talk to me at all. Now I really felt something odd was going on because > I'm the one doing the calling, but no one wants to talk to me. Is that > normal police procedure now across the USA? > > Nicole was very quiet while the white guy was calling me a nigger. She got > on her cell phone and called her biracial boyfriend and told him to come > by. The other couple got > Up and left after a half hour or so. Then this attractive light skinned > black man about 25 came in and Nicole snuggled up in his arms as he sat > down beside her. > > She told him what had happened and he began telling us what all behind he > would have kicked had it been done to him. He told me he was a criminal > and didn't play that sort of mess. The more we discussed it the more they > seemed to try to blame me for everything. I asked Nicole why she had > become such a chatterbox now that her black boyfriend had arrived. She > laughed and said that she felt safe now. They continued spewing out all > sort of nonsense about race that mentally confused Bi-racials, and > uninformed Caucasians tend to do. So after fifteen minutes of listening to > their ignorance, I told them I had to go. I wished them a happy New Year > and walked outside to the parking lot. > > I saw the truck was still there. So when I left I drove around town in a > random manner for about fifteen minutes to see if I was being followed. > When I felt that I wasn't I headed on home and called it a night. I > decided to stay home for New Years eve as I didn't want to run into any > more of these beer drinking, ball cap wearing rabid, mad dog, psychotic > folks like I had the night before. I didn't want to start the New Year > being a victim, or being in jail for harming some piece of trash. > > I haven't heard anything at all from Applebees yet. I'm not surprised > however. They didn't say or do anything when I called them about the first > incident. > > So there you have it. What should I do in this situation? What are my > rights? I've emailed Applebees twice, and spoke to them twice, but so far > they have done nothing. > > I think an apology is owed and reparations should be given. > > I would really appreciate it if you would take a few minutes of your time > to think about this and then email me back with your suggestions if you > think there is a fair and just remedy for me here. > > Amicably Yours > > > If you have a interest in being helpful to me then, > email me at clb6969@charterinternet.com > > So mote it be > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"