From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Sep 27 12:33:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from nef.ens.fr (nef.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A13E537B408 for ; Thu, 27 Sep 2001 12:33:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from corto.lpt.ens.fr (corto.lpt.ens.fr [129.199.122.2]) by nef.ens.fr (8.10.1/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id f8RJXCN33966 ; Thu, 27 Sep 2001 21:33:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from (rsidd@localhost) by corto.lpt.ens.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.1) id VAA73884 ; Thu, 27 Sep 2001 21:33:12 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 21:33:12 +0200 From: Rahul Siddharthan To: David Schwartz Cc: paul@freebsd-services.com, FreeBSD Chat Subject: Re: helping victims of terror Message-ID: <20010927213312.C69066@lpt.ens.fr> References: <20010927205547.B69066@lpt.ens.fr> <20010927192517.AAA2063@shell.webmaster.com@whenever> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010927192517.AAA2063@shell.webmaster.com@whenever>; from davids@webmaster.com on Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 12:25:16PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David Schwartz said on Sep 27, 2001 at 12:25:16: > > But what I'm sensing from your other replies is that you hold the view that > no ideology can be judged because in order to do so, you must hold some > standard and obviously any ideology will pass its own standard and it's not > fair to judge one ideology by the standards of another. No I never said that and I don't think I implied that. If you want to know what I think of ideologies, I think they're Bad Things. There is no such thing as a good ideology. A thinking person must always question, and accept certain aspects of any ideology which appeals, but be willing to reject other aspects of the same ideology (in particular religion, but also communism and capitalism). Everyone must have a personal philosophy, subject to change, and not dictated by external authorities who can't be questioned. Someone once remarked that communism is a religion, because no communist is willing to name a mistake or failing of its founders (Marx, Lenin, etc); only gods don't make mistakes. True enough. Capitalism is also a religion to many people in the US, because they aren't willing to admit that there may be deficiencies in the capitalist world view, that free markets don't cure all ills. It is correct, everything else is wrong, infidel, dangerous. In the 1950s many of America's best and brightest people were persecuted by this capitalist (anti-communist) dogma. R To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message