From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 25 18:40:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C5E916A4CE; Fri, 25 Jun 2004 18:40:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gw.catspoiler.org (217-ip-163.nccn.net [209.79.217.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4755243D54; Fri, 25 Jun 2004 18:40:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from truckman@FreeBSD.org) Received: from FreeBSD.org (mousie.catspoiler.org [192.168.101.2]) by gw.catspoiler.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i5PIdcTV060752; Fri, 25 Jun 2004 11:39:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from truckman@FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <200406251839.i5PIdcTV060752@gw.catspoiler.org> Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 11:39:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Lewis To: danny@cs.huji.ac.il In-Reply-To: <20040624124311.22B0643D62@mx1.FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: mpf@inodes.us cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org cc: tjr@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: waiting on sbwait X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 18:40:33 -0000 On 24 Jun, Danny Braniss wrote: > found the cause: NFS/amd > a user had several symlinks to /net/host/xyz, and host was down. > doing ls -F /net/host/xyz does the trick, the machine becomes > unresponsive. /net is evil. A fun trick is to attempt to access /net/nonexistenthost and watch amd wedge while it gropes around the DNS tree looking for nonexistenthost. At a previous job I stumbled across this when I noticed that amd would hang whenever we lost our internet connection. Watching DNS queries sent to the Internet revealed all sorts of interesting things that could be considered to be a leak of sensitive information. I also don't like NFS exporting /, and accessing /net/machine doesn't work too well if / isn't exported.