Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 01:38:42 -0400 From: "Brett G. Castleberry" <bcc9746@garnet.acns.fsu.edu> To: "Pete Vanderburgh" <peterv@vma.verio.net> Cc: <newbies@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Diary - how to guides Message-ID: <002301be8c82$6308a2a0$6a21c992@s1o3q0> References: <19990406205551.QXQP5752963.mta2-rme@wocker> <020501be80ae$fd1aa800$8620c992@s1o3q0> <371A551F.B4FC1EFB@vma.verio.net>
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Sorry it's taken me a few days to reply. By "on top of Unix" I mean =
that I believe that the computer that processes data for all the local =
libraries using the Data Research Associates library automation system =
(our county library, the state library here in Tallahassee, and a number =
of others) runs Unix. I could be wrong, but when I mentioned this in an =
"Intro to Unix" class I took a few weeks ago, the instructor nodded =
sagely, as though I had divined the truth. I drive a bookmobile to =
rural stops, and I do my circulation functions using an off-line =
circulation program on a laptop equipped with a barcode reading wand. =
Back at the main library, I upload the files using Kermit, and when I =
started reading about Unix I recognized some commands that I use, such =
as "control-right bracket" to escape a process and get to a prompt. =
When I send the files, I am told that they are going to a Vax computer. =
Do you all see how clueless, what a reeking newbie, I am? I could be =
wrong, but that's the impression I got, that our menu-driven automation =
program is overlaid onto a basically Unix system.
Pete, were you a LS major? From your signature I take it that you =
are associated with an ISP now. I've gone back and forth about whether =
to change course from reference work to an IT emphasis, but I think I'm =
a bit long in the tooth (I'm 45) for that. Anyway, there are VAST =
quantities of information that will never be digitized, that will =
continue to be available
only on paper. Somebody's got to be able to find it. Ink gets in your =
blood. Actually, that could account for the appeal that command-line =
FreeBSD has for me - virtual ink!=20
Brett Castleberry
bcc9746@garnet.acns.fsu.edu
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Pete Vanderburgh=20
To: Brett G. Castleberry=20
Cc: newbies@FreeBSD.ORG=20
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 1999 5:56 PM
Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Diary - how to guides
"Brett G. Castleberry" wrote:=20
How much is too much? Most of what I'm seeing on FreeBSD/ Questions =
is over=20
my head and almost discouraging.
Agreed!=20
=20
I've been a bookman all my life, a=20
pressman, a bookseller, and for the last ten years, a librarian. =
When I=20
returned to school for a masters degree a couple of years ago, my =
program=20
was called "Library Science". Now it's called "Information =
Studies", and IT=20
students (along with their tuition fees) are pouring in, at this =
point=20
outnumbering LS students. Those of us who are dedicated to =
providing public=20
access to useful information are scrambling to learn how to find and =
use=20
digital resources. In addition, as I've become acquainted with unix =
I have=20
realized that our own library automation system operates on top of =
unix.
I am curious about what you mean exactly by 'on top of UNIX'. I too, =
am *quite* the newbie in regard to UNIX and FreeBSD.=20
I'm also curious to hear more, as I myself was a librarian; not =
professionally, but in college. From 1988-1993 I learned a wide variety =
of electronic resources used for reference and cataloguing (we had these =
new-fangled "CD-ROM"s. Oooh!).=20
And then, I graduated, just as the internet, in it's 'mainstream' form =
began to emerge. Very frustrating!=20
=20
So, I want FreeBSD to play and learn with. Perhaps I can connect =
my=20
FreeBSD 486 to my Win98 box and learn about networking too. I sense =
in your=20
free OS project a spirit akin to that of the public librarian, and I =
salute=20
you.
That's how I understand it to. Freedom of information!=20
=20
Brett Castleberry=20
bcc9746@garnet.acns.fsu.edu=20
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(703)749-7955 x1306
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Sorry it's taken me =
a few days=20
to reply. By "on top of Unix" I mean that I believe that the=20
computer that processes data for all the local libraries using the =
Data=20
Research Associates library automation system (our county library, =
the=20
state library here in Tallahassee, and a number of others) runs =
Unix. I=20
could be wrong, but when I mentioned this in an "Intro to Unix" class I =
took a=20
few weeks ago, the instructor nodded sagely, as though I had divined the =
truth. I drive a bookmobile to rural stops, and I do my =
circulation=20
functions using an off-line circulation program on a laptop equipped =
with a=20
barcode reading wand. Back at the main library, I upload the files =
using=20
Kermit, and when I started reading about Unix I recognized some commands =
that I=20
use, such as "control-right bracket" to escape a process and get to a=20
prompt. When I send the files, I am told that they are going to a =
Vax=20
computer. Do you all see how clueless, what a reeking =
newbie, I=20
am? I could be wrong, but that's the impression I got, that our=20
menu-driven automation program is overlaid onto a basically Unix=20
system.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Pete, were you a LS =
major? =20
From your signature I take it that you are associated with an ISP =
now. =20
I've gone back and forth about whether to change course from reference =
work to=20
an IT emphasis, but I think I'm a bit long in the tooth (I'm 45) for =
that. =20
Anyway, there are VAST quantities of information that will never be =
digitized,=20
that will continue to be available</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>only on paper. =
Somebody's got to=20
be able to find it. Ink gets in your blood. Actually, that =
could=20
account for the appeal that command-line FreeBSD has for me - =
virtual ink!=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Brett Castleberry</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>bcc9746@garnet.acns.fsu.edu</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A href=3D"mailto:peterv@vma.verio.net" =
title=3Dpeterv@vma.verio.net>Pete=20
Vanderburgh</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:bcc9746@garnet.acns.fsu.edu"=20
title=3Dbcc9746@garnet.acns.fsu.edu>Brett G. Castleberry</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A =
href=3D"mailto:newbies@FreeBSD.ORG"=20
title=3Dnewbies@FreeBSD.ORG>newbies@FreeBSD.ORG</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, April 18, 1999 =
5:56=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: The FreeBSD Diary =
- how to=20
guides</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>"Brett G. Castleberry" wrote:=20
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D"CITE">How much is too much? Most of what I'm =
seeing=20
on FreeBSD/ Questions is over <BR>my head and almost=20
discouraging.</BLOCKQUOTE>
<P><BR>Agreed! <BR> =20
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D"CITE">I've been a bookman all my life, a =
<BR>pressman, a=20
bookseller, and for the last ten years, a librarian. When I=20
<BR>returned to school for a masters degree a couple of years ago, =
my=20
program <BR>was called "Library Science". Now it's called =
"Information=20
Studies", and IT <BR>students (along with their tuition fees) are =
pouring=20
in, at this point <BR>outnumbering LS students. Those of us =
who are=20
dedicated to providing public <BR>access to useful information are=20
scrambling to learn how to find and use <BR>digital resources. =
In=20
addition, as I've become acquainted with unix I have <BR>realized =
that our=20
own library automation system operates on top of unix.</BLOCKQUOTE>
<P><BR>I am curious about what you mean exactly by 'on top of =
UNIX'. I=20
too, am *quite* the newbie in regard to UNIX and FreeBSD.=20
<P>I'm also curious to hear more, as I myself was a librarian; not=20
professionally, but in college. From 1988-1993 I learned a =
wide=20
variety of electronic resources used for reference and cataloguing (we =
had=20
these new-fangled "CD-ROM"s. Oooh!).=20
<P>And then, I graduated, just as the internet, in it's =
'mainstream' form=20
began to emerge. Very frustrating!=20
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D"CITE"> <BR>So, I want FreeBSD to play and learn=20
with. Perhaps I can connect my <BR>FreeBSD 486 to my =
Win98 box=20
and learn about networking too. I sense in your <BR>free OS =
project a=20
spirit akin to that of the public librarian, and I salute=20
<BR>you.</BLOCKQUOTE>
<P><BR>That's how I understand it to. Freedom of =
information!=20
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D"CITE"> </BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D"CITE"> <BR>Brett Castleberry=20
<BR>bcc9746@garnet.acns.fsu.edu=20
<P>To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org <BR>with =
"unsubscribe=20
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(703)749-7955 x1306
peterv@verio.net
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