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Date:      Fri, 19 Oct 2001 12:18:15 -0700
From:      Kent Stewart <kstewart@owt.com>
To:        xphilius@yahoo.com
Cc:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Best upgrade path from 4.1 Release to 4.4 Release, via CVsup if    possible
Message-ID:  <3BD07C77.F07B0439@owt.com>
References:  <20011019144256.67699.qmail@web11805.mail.yahoo.com>

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X Philius wrote:
> 
> Kent,
> Well, managed to make it through 'make buildworld' without any Stops, upgrading from 4.1 Release
> to 4.2 Release. Now I've got to get myself physically in front of the machine to drop into single
> user and do the rest of the upgrade. I am afraid I may end up using Sysinstall to upgrade my real
> server to 4.4 though. Part of what I am trying to figure out is how to minimize downtime and "face
> time" with the server. I've got an odd co-lo deal, and I want to spend as little time as possible
> in the closet by the router ;-) If I have to do a two stage upgrade, then I'll have to sit there
> and wait while the 4.2 - 4.4 make buildworld runs. Both of my machines boot fine off of the 4.1
> CD's, so I think I would run Sysinstall while booted from CD, as opposed to doing the floppy
> thang. Do you know if I can run the 4.1 version of sysinstall to upgrade a machine from 4.2 to
> 4.4? N odd case, but I imagine lost of people end up with the same situation. Old media and a
> machine that has been upgraded to some intermediary point. Thanks much for the assistance. I'll
> let you know how the rest of the upgrade goes.

You can do all of the builds before you get to the computer. You aren't
supposed to do an installworld before you test the new kernel. You can
back out a broken kernel but backing out a broken world is called a
clean install.

Gotcha's for you would be NIC's and possibly a few other things. Make
sure you use the miibus driver for the cards that need them. A number of
NIC's now use the miibus. You will find them listed in GENERIC.

I don't know about booting the CD. I have never tried it. I follow
stable on two systems that I use for testing. The other 3 machines are
upgraded when an enhancement comes a long or a major fix. 

I have a local cvsup mirror and have several hours between sync's. The
fast system (dual 866 coppermines) will cvsup and be back on line in
less than an hour. It has been setup to do nfs_mount installs on the
other machines. I just haven't started doing that yet. An install or
upgrade from the CDROM is not that much faster. I only need about 10
minutes in single user mode and an upgrade from the CDROM would be
longer. 

Both of the test systems do not seem to be bothered by not booting into
single user mode. The only process running is basically me and a
setiathome for each cpu. I haven't tried doing that on 4.4 but I have a
script that cvsup's and leaves me ready to do a mergemaster.

Kent

> 
> Jason
> 
> --- Kent Stewart <kstewart@owt.com> wrote:
> 
> > Let me know if the 4.1>4.2r>4.4r works.
> >
> > Usually, you boot from the floppies and do the upgrade from there. It
> > uses sysinstall. I don't know of a way to do it from the normal
> > /stand/sysinstall. You have too many processes running in real time and
> > I wouldn't trust it to begin with.
> >
> > kent
> 
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