Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 12:40:59 -0700 (PDT) From: X Philius <xphilius@yahoo.com> To: Kent Stewart <kstewart@owt.com> Cc: jslivko@4evermail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Best upgrade path from 4.1 Release to 4.4 Release, via CVsup if possible Message-ID: <20011019194059.62799.qmail@web11808.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <3BD07C77.F07B0439@owt.com>
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Kent, Cool, I'll give that a try. I just started syncing source up to 4.4 Release. I must say, I am a little confused. My understanding was that the problem with going from 4.1 to 4.4 was that the build process required binaries that I did not have in my 4.1 system. I took this to mean that I would have to be completely upgraded to 4.2 before the I could build 4.4. If the build process does not depend on binaries outside of /usr/src, then how come I couldn't just upgrade in one step? I am guessing that the compiler and assiciated scripts are smart enough to use binaries in /usr/obj even if they are not installed on the system. That seems to be the only possible answer. I'll keep you posted. Jason PS- I answered a suggestion from Jonathon Slivko on this same thread and mistakenly referred to you as Stan, dunno where I got that name from. Just want to give credit where credit is due. PPS- Jonathon, sorry for the unsolicited CC, but It looks like you and Kent (not Stan) are both regulars. --- Kent Stewart <kstewart@owt.com> wrote: > > > X Philius wrote: > > > > Kent, > > Well, managed to make it through 'make buildworld' without any Stops, upgrading from 4.1 > Release > > to 4.2 Release. Now I've got to get myself physically in front of the machine to drop into > single > > user and do the rest of the upgrade. I am afraid I may end up using Sysinstall to upgrade my > real > > server to 4.4 though. Part of what I am trying to figure out is how to minimize downtime and > "face > > time" with the server. I've got an odd co-lo deal, and I want to spend as little time as > possible > > in the closet by the router ;-) If I have to do a two stage upgrade, then I'll have to sit > there > > and wait while the 4.2 - 4.4 make buildworld runs. Both of my machines boot fine off of the > 4.1 > > CD's, so I think I would run Sysinstall while booted from CD, as opposed to doing the floppy > > thang. Do you know if I can run the 4.1 version of sysinstall to upgrade a machine from 4.2 to > > 4.4? N odd case, but I imagine lost of people end up with the same situation. Old media and a > > machine that has been upgraded to some intermediary point. Thanks much for the assistance. > I'll > > let you know how the rest of the upgrade goes. > > You can do all of the builds before you get to the computer. You aren't > supposed to do an installworld before you test the new kernel. You can > back out a broken kernel but backing out a broken world is called a > clean install. > > Gotcha's for you would be NIC's and possibly a few other things. Make > sure you use the miibus driver for the cards that need them. A number of > NIC's now use the miibus. You will find them listed in GENERIC. > > I don't know about booting the CD. I have never tried it. I follow > stable on two systems that I use for testing. The other 3 machines are > upgraded when an enhancement comes a long or a major fix. > > I have a local cvsup mirror and have several hours between sync's. The > fast system (dual 866 coppermines) will cvsup and be back on line in > less than an hour. It has been setup to do nfs_mount installs on the > other machines. I just haven't started doing that yet. An install or > upgrade from the CDROM is not that much faster. I only need about 10 > minutes in single user mode and an upgrade from the CDROM would be > longer. > > Both of the test systems do not seem to be bothered by not booting into > single user mode. The only process running is basically me and a > setiathome for each cpu. I haven't tried doing that on 4.4 but I have a > script that cvsup's and leaves me ready to do a mergemaster. > > Kent > > > > > Jason > > > > --- Kent Stewart <kstewart@owt.com> wrote: > > > > > Let me know if the 4.1>4.2r>4.4r works. > > > > > > Usually, you boot from the floppies and do the upgrade from there. It > > > uses sysinstall. I don't know of a way to do it from the normal > > > /stand/sysinstall. You have too many processes running in real time and > > > I wouldn't trust it to begin with. > > > > > > kent > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. > > http://personals.yahoo.com > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > -- > Kent Stewart > Richland, WA > http://users.owt.com/kstewart > > Carl Sagan quote on Seti@home > http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/pale_blue_dot.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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