From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Wed May 23 11:14:09 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71C5BEFA2E9 for ; Wed, 23 May 2018 11:14:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrnils@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x229.google.com (mail-wm0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DAC4C85A00; Wed, 23 May 2018 11:14:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrnils@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x229.google.com with SMTP id q4-v6so2188465wmq.1; Wed, 23 May 2018 04:14:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=JqS7pXGYCZ0fmFsDjqUAHCYyD+d+ArN+/iz5SA81m7w=; b=jnDxxfugLWDy0gkkizys/8vEzBpnsie1Y7A3f0j7xvcH/4Bti9qvJml6Sa0f066i5E Kiz4EtQ8DLS7BTHo/SGJ4i5ZBvz4KSFl6rOnV+Uu6o+UWOzMumK1/ztqFvjFZv6xJF9z 2EHB9xu0Ym1etaIVnwk0ZwBbCeLElGf3cGNyY4/ecgOgY01GDOYa+LsBBVlTjJe3C+3o Y9kWUsLK7JcpCJGuhVqsreoBZD3VF+fndtbDmJKueiUAfxTT1/xcfJ9Ur1uJhY/q2bsR iGIqTRySYy6tDpUwf8JxCjaA9xUQIrt58zv4ajUGfcLMjlHV5t7WylNImSKtuQxcYLOI UzFA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=JqS7pXGYCZ0fmFsDjqUAHCYyD+d+ArN+/iz5SA81m7w=; b=ZyYoCw5qQjxvkZsIXcFovZ8whFsm/+ZMSQhwk/jcAjCNi7R2T+2DdOhP3zzOrbrL/u joQdYuEGVH5J4lf7Ju50V+ht35hw0kbZGT/Gsa4+QbbfmlP3U3CYz6kDcJeFH+673fOE qUsrDJHnUjHQyt+YYfq588YzO5ALAKT7oOgl/Ja5mjLIrZeBsZeJtTjWfKMZKHXqWdmc +hQ9uPT4b6+UztdQJsswsb4R+B4tdKsvHwni+HQy8ialXU17rnu9LeR4q6Hsdye+jn2j NR1kgobhjhVjLM/cIK/tv9o/U0cOgHfjMEFYf80FOlqzTqr6S6nktZ51u9A5sqk3egqL EunA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALKqPwcZSxw2mmJigWXLn2IFSaiaDjKIT5nbE0AcORBWSulA94qSR2lZ bsTodsis1UKsgjBApNvoYT/qsY3cQGlCUDrPhUs= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AB8JxZr0scFmAxnlsLj2XbQEP7t0mk2qcvLLTKXf+RxjEQcoqmQ23I0F9ZzktApoQqMDet9f3yhM4sphD3IcMgj6DYc= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:404d:: with SMTP id n74-v6mr1516623lja.6.1527074047799; Wed, 23 May 2018 04:14:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a2e:834c:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Wed, 23 May 2018 04:14:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201805222212.w4MMCdA9031937@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> From: Andreas Nilsson Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 13:14:07 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [RFC] Deprecation and removal of the drm2 driver To: Philip Homburg Cc: "Rodney W. Grimes" , "K. Macy" , "A. Wilcox" , FreeBSD Current Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.26 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 11:14:09 -0000 On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 11:48 AM, Philip Homburg wrote: > >Also as the Moore's law curve flattens expect the life of these > >older, but not so old, machines to live quiet some time. I > >believe we are talking sandy bridge and earlier? If that is > >corret Sandy bridge is still a very viable system. > > I noticed this lack of love for older systems recently. > > I wanted to use an older Dell server to test the 11.2 BETAs and RCs. > > Turns out, you can't install FreeBSD using a USB stick image because the > BIOS only support MBR. No idea why MBR support was dropped for the USB > images. > It's not that hard create a mbr based usb-stick. Far easier than to find a CD burner. > > In the end I had to find a CD burner, and after a couple of tries managed > to > install from CD. > > After that, my ansible playbooks started failing because /boot/loader.conf > is absent if you boot from zfs in combination with MBR. > I believe boot/loader.conf is something you have to create, it is not there by default. > > Pity. This older server hardware is great for trying out new releases, > play > with zfs, etc. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >