From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 9 15:32:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id PAA28079 for current-outgoing; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 15:32:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from ipro.com (farad.ipro.com [204.179.121.96]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id PAA28067 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 15:32:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from ipro.ipro.com by ipro.com (8.7.4/SMI-SVR4) id PAA09719; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 15:31:57 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199701092331.PAA09719@ipro.com> X-Sender: kingram@ipro.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 15:39:24 -0800 To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) From: Ken Ingram Subject: Re: Adding Hard Drives - Prepping Cc: FreeBSD-current@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk OK.OK. Best take a deep breath before I rant... Anyway, thanks for the help. Many people have been responding. I hope to no longer be a b\newbie one day. Just the man pages? Jeez! At 10:51 PM 1/9/97 +0100, J Wunsch wrote: >As Ken Ingram wrote: > >> My question is: Why do i have to spend hours of time cross-referencing >> every damn thing when all I want to do is format the bloody thing. > >You don't have to spend hours for cross-referencing. Not necessarily. >When some of us started back in 1992, all we had were the man pages. >Nothing else, perhaps a little Usenet support by the more experienced. > >Well, we figured it out, and i can't remember it took me too many >hours getting the picture. However, it requires you to leave >traditional PeeCee thinking (like fdisk, or the misnomer MS-DOS calls >`format' which actually can be anything or nothing at all, depending >on the time of day). > >> Is there or is there not a simple way to do this? > >It depends on what you mean with `format'. Low-level format? For a >SCSI disk, use /sbin/scsiformat. For an IDE drive, ask the vendor of >your drive, he's the only one to know. Certainly, you don't need or >want to low-level format your drive. Do you want to fdisk it, in >order to share it with other operating systems? Well, use fdisk. >It's not great, we know, but nobody has ever been bothered to write a >new one. Do you want to disklabel it, in order to create partitions? >Certainly, you want. That's the only mandatory step. Well, either >read the FAQ, or read the man page. Or ask a question one could >really answer. (Not just ``All this sucks, i don't get it.'' What do >you expect us answering to this?) Do you want to ``high-level >format'' (or simply spoken: create) your filesystems? Yes, you want. >Use newfs for this. It often doesn't require any other argument than >the name of the raw device at all. > >> If there is a simple way what should be investigated when it isn't working >> as described (e.g. FAQ part 2.15)? > >Investigate. Describe it better. Fix the bugs -- i have never >experienced them, so it's harder for me to fix it. > >-- >cheers, J"org > >joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE >Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) > > --Ken ________________________________________________________________________ Ken Ingram kingram@ipro.com | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ POST NO BILLS