From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 29 13:04:57 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EC5316A4B3; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 13:04:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.86.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0EF844027; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 13:04:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@phk.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h8TK4lOP003528; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:04:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@phk.freebsd.dk) To: Dan Nelson From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 29 Sep 2003 14:53:04 CDT." <20030929195304.GA74320@dan.emsphone.com> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:04:47 +0200 Message-ID: <3527.1064865887@critter.freebsd.dk> cc: deischen@freebsd.org cc: Marcel Moolenaar cc: re@freebsd.org cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:04:57 -0000 In message <20030929195304.GA74320@dan.emsphone.com>, Dan Nelson writes: >> In my book sparc64 is also with one foot in the grave. As is Sun >> itself. > >Fujitsu makes sparc-compatible CPUs, too, so it'll be harder to kill >the entire architecture like HP did with the Alpha. Having at least on architecture with the other byte order helps keep our code honest. I also think that VM afflicted people tend to think that it is a good idea to have another model in order to keep MI separated properly from MD. Alpha has sort of outlived its role as our "token architecture", "pc98" doesn't qualify due to inbreeding, "amd64" doesn't qualify due to nepotism, "ia64" is not yet there. That leaves us only "sparc64" as candidate for that job. Therefore I would like to keep the sparc64 port alive, even at a pretty high cost in effort. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.