Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 13:39:26 -0700 From: Kent Stewart <kstewart@owt.com> To: xphilius@yahoo.com Cc: jslivko@4evermail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Best upgrade path from 4.1 Release to 4.4 Release, via CVsup if possible Message-ID: <3BD08F7E.6CEA820A@owt.com> References: <20011019194059.62799.qmail@web11808.mail.yahoo.com>
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X Philius wrote: > > Kent, > Cool, I'll give that a try. I just started syncing source up to 4.4 Release. I must say, I am a > little confused. My understanding was that the problem with going from 4.1 to 4.4 was that the > build process required binaries that I did not have in my 4.1 system. I took this to mean that I > would have to be completely upgraded to 4.2 before the I could build 4.4. If the build process > does not depend on binaries outside of /usr/src, then how come I couldn't just upgrade in one > step? I am guessing that the compiler and assiciated scripts are smart enough to use binaries in > /usr/obj even if they are not installed on the system. That seems to be the only possible answer. > I'll keep you posted. The build process bootstraps itself using code from /usr/obj. You don't have the proper bootstrap code. I think that you would have to do a complete build of 4.2. You need an update user land and you add that as the last thing in the upgrade. The bootstrap problem was fixed in one of the recent additions to 4.4-stable. Your problem is trying to go to 4.4-release, which doesn't have the proper makefiles that will build from the older version. Kent > > Jason > > PS- I answered a suggestion from Jonathon Slivko on this same thread and mistakenly referred to > you as Stan, dunno where I got that name from. Just want to give credit where credit is due. > > PPS- Jonathon, sorry for the unsolicited CC, but It looks like you and Kent (not Stan) are both > regulars. > > --- Kent Stewart <kstewart@owt.com> wrote: > > > > > > X Philius wrote: > > > > > > Kent, > > > Well, managed to make it through 'make buildworld' without any Stops, upgrading from 4.1 > > Release > > > to 4.2 Release. Now I've got to get myself physically in front of the machine to drop into > > single > > > user and do the rest of the upgrade. I am afraid I may end up using Sysinstall to upgrade my > > real > > > server to 4.4 though. Part of what I am trying to figure out is how to minimize downtime and > > "face > > > time" with the server. I've got an odd co-lo deal, and I want to spend as little time as > > possible > > > in the closet by the router ;-) If I have to do a two stage upgrade, then I'll have to sit > > there > > > and wait while the 4.2 - 4.4 make buildworld runs. Both of my machines boot fine off of the > > 4.1 > > > CD's, so I think I would run Sysinstall while booted from CD, as opposed to doing the floppy > > > thang. Do you know if I can run the 4.1 version of sysinstall to upgrade a machine from 4.2 to > > > 4.4? N odd case, but I imagine lost of people end up with the same situation. Old media and a > > > machine that has been upgraded to some intermediary point. Thanks much for the assistance. > > I'll > > > let you know how the rest of the upgrade goes. > > > > You can do all of the builds before you get to the computer. You aren't > > supposed to do an installworld before you test the new kernel. You can > > back out a broken kernel but backing out a broken world is called a > > clean install. > > > > Gotcha's for you would be NIC's and possibly a few other things. Make > > sure you use the miibus driver for the cards that need them. A number of > > NIC's now use the miibus. You will find them listed in GENERIC. > > > > I don't know about booting the CD. I have never tried it. I follow > > stable on two systems that I use for testing. The other 3 machines are > > upgraded when an enhancement comes a long or a major fix. > > > > I have a local cvsup mirror and have several hours between sync's. The > > fast system (dual 866 coppermines) will cvsup and be back on line in > > less than an hour. It has been setup to do nfs_mount installs on the > > other machines. I just haven't started doing that yet. An install or > > upgrade from the CDROM is not that much faster. I only need about 10 > > minutes in single user mode and an upgrade from the CDROM would be > > longer. > > > > Both of the test systems do not seem to be bothered by not booting into > > single user mode. The only process running is basically me and a > > setiathome for each cpu. I haven't tried doing that on 4.4 but I have a > > script that cvsup's and leaves me ready to do a mergemaster. > > > > Kent > > > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > --- Kent Stewart <kstewart@owt.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Let me know if the 4.1>4.2r>4.4r works. > > > > > > > > Usually, you boot from the floppies and do the upgrade from there. It > > > > uses sysinstall. I don't know of a way to do it from the normal > > > > /stand/sysinstall. You have too many processes running in real time and > > > > I wouldn't trust it to begin with. > > > > > > > > kent > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Make a great connection at Yahoo! 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