From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Nov 26 11:50:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from heaven.gigo.com (gigo.com [207.173.11.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9311437B41A for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 11:50:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from 200.181.49.182 (unknown [200.181.49.182]) by heaven.gigo.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DF2CB8A6 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 11:47:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 23689 invoked by uid 1001); 26 Nov 2001 19:49:43 -0000 Message-ID: <20011126194943.23688.qmail@exxodus.fedaykin.here> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 17:49:21 -0200 From: Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira To: "Steven G. Kargl" Cc: Maxim Sobolev , ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD ports: 1 unfetchable distfiles: lang/f2c (fwd) References: <200111261829.fAQITfh26126@vega.vega.com> <200111261841.fAQIfLr53078@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="vGgW1X5XWziG23Ko" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200111261841.fAQIfLr53078@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>; from kargl@troutmask.apl.washington.edu on Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 10:40:58AM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE X-Disclaimer: I hope you find what you are looking for... in life :) Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --vGgW1X5XWziG23Ko Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 10:40:58AM -0800, Steven G. Kargl wrote: > Maxim Sobolev said: > > >=20 > > > PLEASE BACK OUT YOUR CHANGE. YOU BROKE A PORT > > > THAT HAS BEEN BUILDING FOR SEVERAL YEARS! =20 > > >=20 > > > I am the listed maintainer. You did not run your > > > change by me. Please don't touch my ports. > >=20 > > Please calm down. You tone is absolutely inacceptable, especially > > considering that you posted this message to a public mailing list. > > Even if Mario did something wrong (not contacted you, the maintainer), > > pollite notice would do the job much better. > >=20 >=20 > You must have an unlimited amount of time to work on FreeBSD. > It is unacceptable for someone to break a *maintained port* > that causes me to waste a half hour of my time to determine > what the problem was. Hi, I did the change to ports/lang/f2c/pkg-descr I was removing trailing spaces in WWW tags. Unfortunaly, it seems that I overlooked that mistake with your port. I apologize for that. I was merely removing extraneous spaces on WWW tags. I did not mean to break your port. I did not request maintainer approval since this was a simple and cosmetic port change. Nevertheless, I should have been even more careful with the change. It seems that the 4 hours I spent checking and double checking my changes were not enough. For that, I apologize. However, I do think that you should calm down a bit. The port was NOT broken. That was of the reasons I did not request maintainer approval. WWW tags do not break ports. fenner distfile survey warned you that there might be a problem with WWW tag which means that the ports listing on the FreeBSD site could be pointing to a wrong place. Nothing more; though, I agree this could have been prevented. Nonetheless, this a volunteer project and I understand that people contribute their free time however little to help. My time is neither more nor less valuable than yours. So I would appreciate if you did value my contribution efforts as much as I value both your and other contributions to the project. You will notice that I have apologized for the brokeness. I would appreciate that you behaved yourself in a more civilized manner in the future. After all, we are adults and that is not the way we should interact with each other. I understand you might dislike what happened but etiquette and courtesy go a long way. I took 5 deep breaths before writing this email. This enabled me to stick to the point of the issue: I broke it, I apologize. I thank Maxim for the quick response with a fix. Any other side issues are meaningless. Furthermore, I will avoid EVER touching your programs again to avoid such interaction. In the future, please read the netiquette. We are humans and adults, etiquette is demanded from us. This alone would have prevented me from posting to an open list but since the first came, I did respond. Please stick to private email if you must. Regards, -- Mario S F Ferreira - DF - Brazil - "I guess this is a signature." Computer Science Undergraduate | FreeBSD Committer | CS Developer flames to beloved devnull@someotherworldbeloworabove.org feature, n: a documented bug | bug, n: an undocumented feature --vGgW1X5XWziG23Ko Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8ApzXS4IrBZHv9mwRAtoGAJ4z8SccSWmOGKDYR/AeCs5X0CF7swCfQLWL ZNKq//1cI4EbpoalLAK/cDs= =7f3S -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --vGgW1X5XWziG23Ko-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ports" in the body of the message